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Breakaway Imp clips

Posted by racepics <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=racepics' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 1/12/2013, 7:15 am

What your favourite pulley-rig clip and why?
The reason I ask is I'm having lots of release-fails with Breakaway Imps. That is to say they often don't release. Nothing worse than checking your bait only to find the bait gone but the rig still clipped into the imp.

This happened to me at least 6 times yesterday.

I have about a 20% fail-to-release on these, and I have no idea why they don't release. I make sure the bait is not jammed against the plastic paddle and there is plenty of bare hook in the clip.

I've tried the Splash-downs, which are great at always releasing, but the slider in them gets jammed up with sand and you have to spend time before each cast freeing it up.

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Posted by Chad <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Chad' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 1/12/2013, 8:19 am, in reply to "Breakaway Imp clips"

My release rate with these are 100%, its important to ensure you dont have excess elastic as it only takes a thread to catch the clip, the other issue is using big barbed hook and locking then to close to the bait, some hooks are not favorable, like yuovella hooks for example.

Other than that race, place a photo of a baited rig ready to cast, must be something not quite right.

There is nothing more gutting though than knowing you just sat there for 30 minutes pointlessly.

Wairoa
Hawkesbay

Take Nothing For Granted

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Posted by racepics <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=racepics' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 1/12/2013, 8:23 am, in reply to "Breakaway Imp clips"

The only theory I have, and the common conditions when it happens most, is side wind.
When the wind is blowing down the beach it pulls the line out in a big ark as you cast. This holds tension on the line and pulley rig as it hits the water. It may be enough tension to stop the clip from releasing perhaps?

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Posted by Chad <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Chad' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 1/12/2013, 8:38 am, in reply to "Re: Breakaway Imp clips"

Yeah that sounds quite right Chris, the only time I have had that issue in the past is during a harsh side wind. How did you get on at blacks beach yesterday? The fishing had been quite amazing at snapper rock. Its going to be a bumper king season around there this year, from now onwards, so much bait around

Wairoa
Hawkesbay

Take Nothing For Granted

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I got one kahawai and we both fed the paddle crabs well

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Posted by SNAPPA NAPIER <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=SNAPPA+NAPIER' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 1/12/2013, 2:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Breakaway Imp clips"

Im having the same Problem Chris, and only recently am i having this problem. I have changed nothing different from my rig body and traces length wise etc and trace weight and brand over the past few years, so why is this. I found myself not clipping my rigs down on the weekend because of fear of having baits pegged down to the imp. Prior to a few months ago i had 100% release like Chad. Starting to piss me off. Phill any changes made??

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Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 1/12/2013, 2:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Breakaway Imp clips"

Chad, I fished Mahanga this weekend and there were big black masses of bait in the surf. No fish after them but I bet that changes soon. Still just a kahawai beach at present. No sign of anything else.
Have to say it is still a favourite of mine though.

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

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Posted by Phill <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Phill' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 1/12/2013, 5:56 pm, in reply to "Re: Breakaway Imp clips"
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No changes that I have noticed Kane . I know this sounds dumb but you can assemble them incorrectly , could be anything I have not had any problems using them.

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No issues assembling them Phill "It aint rocket science".

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Posted by AndyG <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=AndyG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 2/12/2013, 12:19 pm, in reply to "Re: Breakaway Imp clips"

I have the other problem where they release mid cast...

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Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 2/12/2013, 12:46 pm, in reply to "Re: Breakaway Imp clips"

Phil put up a pic of the sinkers we are using and that will help all these imp cippers.

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

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Posted by racepics <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=racepics' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 2/12/2013, 2:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Breakaway Imp clips"

I'm pretty sure its a line tension issue. I did some experimenting and I'm actually able to cause it to happen by thumbing the spool as the sinker hits the water.
The line tension pulling up on the rig/clip is enough to override the water pressure on the clip paddle. The rig stays clipped.
I found if you wait until the rig is about to hit the water and suddenly drop the rod down while stopping the spool there is enough slack line generated to allow it to unclip.
I wouldn't have though it would happen on fixed spool reels, but I guess if there is enough side wind howling down the beach, there might be enough tension on the outgoing line to stop the release of the clip.

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Yes I've had that too Andy, usually when using a large bait (more than half a pille)

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Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 2/12/2013, 3:49 pm, in reply to "Re: Breakaway Imp clips"

I gave them up a couple of years agp and now use the sinkers that Tackle Tactics make. I am sure Phill will post a pic of one soon.

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

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Posted by Chad <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Chad' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 2/12/2013, 5:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Breakaway Imp clips"

I brought a heap maybe a year ago which I have still been working through, mine work fine. Apart from a while back wihen the wires changed, and they fell to bits, they are a proven product that works very well but best of all, very simple.

The impact shields are probably the best of the lot, but they are bulky and require crimps. The sinkers are with the fancy clips are a bit of a gimmick, I trailed a few some time ago and they jam up with minimal grit, although when they are used in appropriate areas they work fine. The sinkers with hooks on them are ok, they work, but dont always release.

They all work well, just a case of weighing up what you feel true value for money is. I generally use cheep trademe sinkers, same as a boss sinker but only costs $2 delivered and the wires are perfect. Attach a $1.60 IMP and you have a fairly cheep rig that takes 30 seconds to make.

What hooks are you using Chris? Im generally using up to 5/0 in beaks and 3/0 in circles depending on the target.

Wairoa
Hawkesbay

Take Nothing For Granted

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4/0 Gammy circles

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Posted by SNAPPA NAPIER <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=SNAPPA+NAPIER' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 2/12/2013, 6:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Breakaway Imp clips"

Funny i used to get mid air releases but now don't at all

very strange.

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