I must say I am getting tired of casting out a bait and watching for bites that generally dont happen. Next season I will be approaching my fishing in a new and different manner. It will be a lot more interesting even if results are poor. One thing I will be persuing more is slide baiting and livebaiting generally. May as well fish for big ones if nothing else is doing. Soaking bait will have its place but I have several other ideas to try out. I cant do any worse than last season. We will wait and see.The snapper don't know where the car park is! Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.
Re: New Ideas
Posted by kevoynz on 2/6/2014, 9:26 am, in reply to "New Ideas"
Its going to be interesting next season.
Re: New Ideas
Posted by Petethemuss on 2/6/2014, 10:25 am, in reply to "New Ideas"
I tried all that this season so think I will trade in the rods on some knitting needles....!
Re: New Ideas
Posted by tomdaniel on 2/6/2014, 11:14 am, in reply to "New Ideas"
Have leaned more to salt water fly this last summer, big learning curve have found it more challenging and am now making my own flies as well.Still put the surfcasters in the ute,but have not used them often
Re: New Ideas
Posted by Hangler on 2/6/2014, 8:33 pm, in reply to "Re: New Ideas"
I got a head start, I knew I should have kept my big mouth shut.
Don't know who caught it, just lying on the beach at the TukiTuki estuary, Wednesday afternoon.
Re: New Ideas
Posted by racepics on 4/6/2014, 1:27 pm, in reply to "New Ideas"
Posted by jaypeegee on 4/6/2014, 2:22 pm, in reply to "New Ideas"
Hi Gary and all....
While you started the thread Gary - This observation isn't directed at you specifically
I think threads like this are exciting and valuable, But I also feel that when someone states that they will be trying new things it is only fair to mention what they will be trying.
In writing ideas out you provide inspiration to the others that participate and also provide a discussion point for others who may have already tried and failed or succeeded in those avenues...
Lastly, Invoking Cunninghams law, an incorrect opinion soon gathers attention and then subsequently correction of the opinion follows.
As an example, I have looked at slide baiting into deep water in a local spot where I know there is a decent amount of top water fish. I can cast there but obviously the bait follows the sinker and goes to the bottom.
I have utilised floats but they have a habit of following the current or being at the mercy of the wind direction.
SO a slide bait clip with floats to keep the slide at the surface and using a longish trace is my next option.
Using balloons on ledger rigs at other areas where a stiff offshore wind is blowing where the ledger rig is secured to the Balloon with a U shaped section of rig through the balloon neck has been in the forefront of my thoughts - The idea is that with an appropriate reel and line capacity the rig can get out to a further distance than I can cast to see what lurks. The same delivery method would apply to a slide clip use. Once the distance is reached the idea is that the drag is set the balloon gradually frees its self from the line.
I don't wish to litter so may resort to the time honoured lifesaver and cotton solution in it's stead.
To me these are ideas to yet be tried. I have not invented these obviously as they are not likely new to many of you. But they will be new to some and thus have value in being committed to the thread.
Re: New Ideas
Posted by GaryK on 4/6/2014, 8:05 pm, in reply to "Re: New Ideas"
I am only going to give you one (new) idea to try and that is fishing deep water with livebaits that need to be near the surface. Make up some 50lb leaders and fix a float to one end and a hook to the other. You slidebait clip should be above the float. Cast your sinker out to the deep water and lodge it in the botom. Now slide your first bait on a trace without a float. There will be predators down deep too. Follow that with your float trace and a lively bait. It will slide to the surface and stay there unable to pull the float under. I get as many fish on the floater as the other off the Marine Parade in Napier for instance. If you follow my articles in the Hawkes Bay Today each week I take this theme a step further and mention some other ideas over the next few weeks. Good fishing.The snapper don't know where the car park is! Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.
Re: New Ideas
Posted by Charlie on 5/6/2014, 8:06 am, in reply to "Re: New Ideas"
With a live put your hook through the scruff of the neck not to deep otherwise it will die.Cut the top off it's tail and it will swim in the top of the water,you won't need a float,cut the bottom off the tail and it will swim down near the bottom.
Re: New Ideas
Posted by jaypeegee on 5/6/2014, 10:35 am, in reply to "Re: New Ideas"
Your slide bait/Float idea is what I intend to try using dead bait
I suspect that the resistance that the float will incur will soon tire out your live bait as it attempts to get away from the surface and is pulled back up (Assuming that the float's buoyancy is sufficient to achieve this) But most likely no more than the use of a balloon would. The slide technique will keep the live bait in a smaller area than a balloon so I see why you pursue this. I remember those lovely offshore winds in the HB fondly. You haven't mentioned it here but your technique implies you will not be using non return sliders.
Does this mean you use a coast lock or similar slide? I ask as I have made several models of slide clips including a couple of non-non return cages with and without weights as I see using the coast lock as a risk - Smaller surface area where the line is on a single point versus multiple points spread out when using a spiralled cage.
I know other posters here use coast lock's successfully and if the coast lock is sufficiently strong it isn't the point of failure but the line against the wire I am not so confident about.
Re: New Ideas
Posted by GaryK on 5/6/2014, 4:55 pm, in reply to "Re: New Ideas"
I use non return sliders from Tackle Tactics.The snapper don't know where the car park is! Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.
Re: New Ideas
Posted by Hangler on 5/6/2014, 9:54 pm, in reply to "Re: New Ideas"
Jaypeegee, There is a method you can use that works really well, I have used to use this in the Bay of Plenty and had an article published about the method in a fishing magazine.
Go to your local shop that sells material and all the accessories for sewing and dress making. The shop will sell a material that is used in manufacture, when the garment is made you wash it, and this material melts in water.
The idea would be to wrap the bait and secure it with a float to your main line a metre (or so) above the weight. The bottom of the trace is a sliding device as mentioned earlier. You now have the ability to cast a long way using something similar to a clipped up rig, but once the gear hits the water, the material dissolves and the bait and float, along with the slider, will rise to the surface.
Once you see how this material works, you will quickly discover a method that is easy for you to use. This material is not expensive and works perfectly, and here I write from personal experience.
on 2/6/2014, 9:20 am
