Thanks for the breath of fresh air, Chris. K264's claim about LP and left politics in general are getting more unhinged as we go. Thankfully, he agreed with your take ish (I think : /). Factual evidence against loud-mouthed slogans wins my vote any time. Presumably anarchic vote counting doesn't come into play within K264's sensorium, since he has the option of abstaining, so that doesn't count . I am disagreeing at my peril .. as usual