Ken, are you not being just a touch pedantic? I was merely making a specific point about Israel...

Perhaps but I'm somewhat fed up hearing of Israels apparently unalienable "right to exist" and absurd debates on it.

It doesn't actually matter "...if violence, illegality and inhumanity rule it...": Good or bad: approval of disapproval doesn't come into it because no country has any such "right" anyway.

It's a straw-man with no meaning except to try give Israel some spurious "special" status.