'Owen Jones @owenjonesjourno
Oct 15
I'm trying to find a citation for this quote from former Israeli general Giora Eiland.
It's on @normfinkelstein's blog here, but the link is dead.
I can't find it on Google. Is it translated here somewhere from Hebrew?
Any help much appreciated.
https://www.normanfinkelstein.com/fighting-amalek-in-gaza-what-israelis-say-and-western-media-ignore/' - https://nitter.poast.org/owenjonesjourno/status/1846166381835723153#m
The Finkelstein article is from Nov 2023. Searching for 'Eiland' shows Jones didn't mention the name until he started researching his recent article. It's also the only time he's mentioned Norman, as far as I can tell. So he probably saw it on a re-tweet somewhere. Wouldn't be surprised if it's the one and only mention of the name throughout the msm. A search of the graun website only turns out a couple of links to a Seumas Milne article from 2008: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=giora+eiland+site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com&t=ffab&ia=web I suppose we should be grateful...
My guess is the graun are trying to trim their sails on the whole genocide thing, so they've allowed Jones a little more play on his leash, but I would expect the rest of their coverage to maintain the same relentless pro-Israel bias. re: Jones, I also refuse to trust him, especially since he never apologised for his role in endorsing the a/s witchhunt - which laid the ground for the Starmer govt's unconditional support of the genocide and has made nearly everybody scared of criticising Israel. I think he also knows where the line is, hence being careful to performatively & repeatedly condemn Hamas 'war crimes', not mentioning the Hannibal doctrine or deconstructing the more egregious zionist lies about mass rape, babies in ovens, Hamas bases under hospitals etc (correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't followed everything he's done).
Ali Abunimah has his number, and is still being slandered for it:
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https://nitter.poast.org/AliAbunimah/status/1833212504706847058#m
Ali Abunimah @AliAbunimah
Sep 9
Like many other Palestinians, I’ve been blocked by @owenjonesjourno for years. If you’re wondering why it’s because we at @intifada have held him accountable for the terrible things he has said and done to help “Israel” and its genocidal lobby, which he has still never acknowledged or made amends for. I personally don’t care how many great videos you think he’s made over the last 11 months, his refusal to be accountable, his refusal to acknowledge the harm he’s done means I cannot trust him. This is all I’ll say on this and please do not bother with your “Ali don’t be divisive, we’re all on the same side” tweets. We are not. https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-owen-jones-learned-stop-worrying-and-love-zionism/34986
VICTORIA @ANTIVICTORIA
On your word alone I just Unfollowed him.
Then I read your article.
And I'm kicking myself for ever following him in the first place. My only defense is, I'd never heard of him before.
electronicintifada.net/conte…
How Owen Jones learned to stop worrying and love Zionism
Israel "fundamentally different" from other settler-colonial projects, claims Guardian columnist.
electronicintifada.net
Owen Jones @owenjonesjourno
If you're going to unfollow me in an article based on raging deceit, distortions and lies by omission, that's your call.
Ali Abunimah @AliAbunimah
I take @owenjonesjourno’s allegations of “raging deceit” in an article published by @intifada very seriously. However I’m still blocked by him so could someone please let him know that he should inform us of any errors so we can immediately correct them? We haven’t been made aware of any errors let alone “deceit” since it was published in March 2022
Ismail Lamie @ismail_lamie
Again, Ali, I don’t understand why you keep on fueling division within the people who are tirelessly advocating for the Palestinian cause. Please think about your “everything or nothing” principle. We were drawn certain cards, we play with them, until things change..
Ali Abunimah @AliAbunimah
Have some dignity and stop accepting crumbs from people who spent years working against us with our enemies. They are the divisive ones. Don’t lecture me on this again.
Ismail Lamie @ismail_lamie
I am not lecturing anyone, Ali. I know better then to do so, and I truly respect and admire your work, as I always say. All I am saying is that going on full force, despite the fact that we disagree with certain things, isn’t necessarily the right thing to do right now.
Ali Abunimah @AliAbunimah
You’re free to side with the man who worked for years against Palestinians with the anti-Palestinian lobby, just because he exploited this genocide to rebrand himself. I don’t want to. Let’s agree to disagree on how much betrayal and duplicity to accept. My tolerance is low.
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