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    Posted by Ken Waldron on March 17, 2019, 10:45 pm, in reply to "Lik every prognosticator with ulterior motives"


    you posit one change

    Well its doesn't take Gypsy Rose Lee, does it? Everybody concerned aside from you posits that change: poor people will get poorer under Brexit.

    and assume no others....

    -As I recall the only actual "other" idea of Brexit "change" you espoused here entailed the UK losing two thirds of its jobs but apparently we would all be ok if we just shared what remained or such like?...is that your other?

    Anywise, that clearly proposes you do indeed agree that Brexit will exacerbate poverty, but for obvious reasons doesn't inspire confidence that your post-plan is any more developed than the 5-live Brexiteer's Rabbit pie.

    On those "others" I can reasonably posit a number from the top of my head:

    That the rich will get even richer than they otherwise would because the market loves those big swings involving chaos?

    That the Health service will rapidly end up in the hands of the US with a concomitant increase in costs and thus taxation and/or lose its function entirely for the poor?

    That there will be a large decrease in duty due to a substantial increase in smuggling because the UK can't monitor export imports without a massive and costly increase in port customs and facilities so will merely do token checks?

    That the border with Eire will exacerbate that, but perhaps with added violence?

    That the poor will also be made to pay the tax revenue lost by C&E failure & the increased costs due to health privatisation ?

    That rapacious businesses will take advantage of the entire farago to bump up the prices of whatever other everyday necessities haven't already been affected?

    That more producers of good destined for the wider EU market will move shop to the European mainland and manufacturing job losses will accelerate?

    That the US and other large trading nations /blocks will take full advantage of UK trade desperation, enforcing iniquitous trading agreements?

    That Fox and his comprador Tory mates will gleefully agree with that, and that clueless Labour will acquiesce?

    That remaining manufacture in the UK will increasingly focus on guns and bombs to service our increasing US mercenary role worldwide?

    That the jobless children of the jobless classes will be increasingly targeted and used as cannon fodder for this purpose?

    And that in the midst of all this at some point we will face another financial meltdown which,because the UK system was never properly reformed, the UK now isolated and London prone to targeting, will have an even bigger effect than before?

    etc

    Feel free to present reasoned disagreement with any of the above but then why would you disagree? If you are looking forward to most people losing their jobs then you accept a lot of this will happen...which brings me to "ulterior motives" unlike yours, there's nothing ulterior in my open espousal of Independence for Scotland.
    Napoleon was given as having said not to interrupt your enemy when he's in the midst of making a mistake... so if you were correct I'm afraid I would have to be your best buddy and a full-on cheerleader for the most economically lunatic Brexit available.
    Westminster of course seems to be heading towards managing that by incompetence alone.

    Otherwise for rural me I'm sitting pretty & 5-Live Brexit wise it will be a dawdle ( "a walk in the park.." to you): cos unlike most folk I'm surrounded by thousands of tons of spuds & a shitload of rabbits & hares...But I do of course have a non-ulterior motive Independence-wise: an economically screwed interminably chaotic militaristic jingoistic England isn't actually in the best interests of its neighbours.



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