Re: Finkelstein, like Jamie Stern Weiner, Deborah Maccoby and many other Archived Message
Posted by Thomas Newfield on December 4, 2019, 5:54 am, in reply to "Finkelstein, like Jamie Stern Weiner, Deborah Maccoby and many other "
Ever heard of the expression "the exception that proves the rule"? OK that itself is a fuzzy expression, but then an ethnosocial group, an ethnos is fuzzy phenomenon: an entity that's dynamic, a process. Also I'm interested to know, who among these worthy Israeli groups (I'm not being facecious!) actually supports the right of return - ie: the end of Israel in it's current ethnic identity? Very few to none, I'm guessing, correct me if I'm wrong. It's a big problem if you don't want to interrogate the foundations of the group and their varying place in different societies - as Gilad A. does, taking a lot of flak for it. It's a kind of leftie allergy, this fear of racism, which is at root racist, because what you interrogate when looking at the Jews and Judaism is not a race but a people bound by a historical myths and truths, family ties, social relations, to greater or lesser degrees. I think the allergy comes from a moral obsession which is like a blindfold with "guilty / not-guilty" or "good stuff / bad stuff" written on the inside. Probably rooted in Protestantism, mainly. There you are, lots of flesh out there, probably just pissing in the wind on these pages anyway.
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Message Thread:
- Where is Kuenssberg? - Mary December 3, 2019, 12:16 pm
- Good spot ! You don't miss much :) nm - Poster123 December 3, 2019, 2:51 pm
- Sighted ! At The Spectator's Garden Party ! What a horrid crowd ! - Poster123 December 3, 2019, 2:56 pm
- I spy far right-wing historian Andrew "I was a beautiful baby" Roberts too...a nasty party (nm) - Ed December 3, 2019, 4:01 pm
- Marie Van Zyl. Matthew Hancock. - Mary December 3, 2019, 5:34 pm
- serves Corbyn right for capitulating to the zionist antisemites....nm - Keith-264 December 3, 2019, 7:21 pm
- Don't you mean 'the Zionist lobby?' Don't forget the Christian Zionists and the anti-Zionist Jews.nm - Laurie December 3, 2019, 8:32 pm
- The Israel lobby, not the "Jewish lobby." NM - Morrissey December 3, 2019, 9:11 pm
- We're getting beyond that now as Finkelstein has pointed out. - Ken Waldron December 3, 2019, 11:44 pm
- Pseudo-Jewish population - Keith-264 December 4, 2019, 1:05 am
- Finkelstein, like Jamie Stern Weiner, Deborah Maccoby and many other - Morrissey December 4, 2019, 3:21 am
- Re: Finkelstein, like Jamie Stern Weiner, Deborah Maccoby and many other - Thomas Newfield December 4, 2019, 5:54 am
- No, Hertzl is succeeding in supplanting Judaism with zionism....nm - Keith-264 December 4, 2019, 10:29 am
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