Verging on Stalinist apologetics. And you're a bit askew on Ireland too. Archived Message Posted by Der on December 16, 2019, 12:09 pm, in reply to "For all their faults the Stalinists in Spain" 1) Spain: "For all their faults"? and "They were wrong"? Wrong? The Stalinists destroyed the social revolution. They killed tens of thousands of people who were on their side against Franco. They created a civil war within the civil war. They ensured Franco would win. Stalin was horrified at the possibility of a social revolution. Pretty much as Lenin and Trotsky were before him. 2) Regarding the Irish Civil War and its aftermath. There were no "decent shinners". The shinners, as you put it were led by DeValera, he who said he would "wade through a river of blood" before he would accept the treat (or words to that effect). And then having done just that he forms Fianna Fail which is the party that has pretty much ruled Ireland on behalf of the Brits on and off since. As did Fine Gael when it got its chance. As did Labour which would side with either to get into power. Read Michael Collins by Tim Pat Coogan. Message Thread: Galloway; he told you so too - Keith-264 December 16, 2019, 11:08 am Galloway? He who blames the anarchists for the loss of the Spanish Civil War, whitewashing - Der December 16, 2019, 11:18 am For all their faults the Stalinists in Spain - Keith-264 December 16, 2019, 11:29 am Verging on Stalinist apologetics. And you're a bit askew on Ireland too. - Der December 16, 2019, 12:09 pm For "treat" read "treaty". nm - Der December 16, 2019, 12:16 pm Galloway's new website has a link to "The Communists". - Der December 16, 2019, 12:27 pm T P Coogan? shallow and facile to boot - Keith-264 December 16, 2019, 12:30 pm What are you talking about? DeValera's side lost the civil war. nm - Der December 16, 2019, 12:53 pm DeValera won in the end....nm - Keith-264 December 16, 2019, 1:26 pm   Searching