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Posted by walter
on May 15, 2020, 11:38 am, in reply to "Debunking corona freaktoids"
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These are the 'debunkings' in the first half: 1) Viruses don't exist. OK, he knows about this or quickly found something convincing. Not that I don't believe him, but he still didn't give a link for any sceptics. 2) Hospitals aren't really busy. OK, though he doesn't really debunk it. 3) The virus is caused by 5G. OK maybe - but I could guess what the next one was. Especially when he said "This is an extension of the idea that the virus doesn't exist. The paranoia about the new technology existed prior to the virus. " Ironically, rather, this is an extension of his existing ignorance about EMF - but first, effects of non-ionizing EMF (except obvious thermal effects caused by very high power levels) are chronic not sudden, so if the 5G caused effects leading somehow to a virus it would probably come later. He missed a much better argument that 5G can not account for the rapid spread of the coronavirus and as it has not been turned off in Wuhan but spread rapidly almost everywhere else, including where 5G isn't being used. He now shows his total ignorance - but worse, he does not even get as far as digging out any of the arguments he claims to be debunking. "Lumping the virus into the existing narrative that 5G is somehow harmful...Makes no sense as 5G existed before the virus. The wireless signals are light. Literally. electromagnetic radiation is like the light we see. How can this do harm to the human body at the frequencies specified? What possible mechanism could this operate by?" Oh dear - he doesn't attempt to find an answer to his own questions, before presenting them as the end of the matter. But I'd best let him finish. "I searched for an hour to find any coherent argument as to how this could be harmful. And there isn't even a shred of a rational thought put forward for me to debunk. It's complete nonsense. The frequencies are higher than those used by previous networks [hey - that hour wasn't completely wasted  ] but they are nowhere near ionizing, like gamma rays. Besides using a phone isn't the same as jumping into a box with immense output. The frequencies being used are not dangerous whatsoever." He didn't get as far as looking at any actual research before concluding that there isn't a shred of rational thought behind it. Kind of making an idiot of himself. "Being afraid of 5G is like being afraid of a light bulb, or an old tiny radio. Or of being outside. Yes if you can see the sun you are being bathed in electromagnetic radiation. " Before ridiculing people whose arguments he hasn't referred to, he omits to first show the substance on which the ridicule is based. That's because there isn't any and he's doing the job on the cheap. An hour for seventy years of research? Give us a break. I've just been looking at a symposium from the seventies, where they looked at EMF research from previous decades. Here is a good place to take a peek if you don't believe me: https://bioinitiative.org/, hundreds of papers there. Basically he is wholly ignorant of the subject of EMF effects, and didn't know where to look. He may have looked at standard blurb like you get from the BBC (a total lie) or Wikipedia (not much better) but didn't get as far as looking at the actual claims of his opponents, or any actual research, which comprises thousands of research papers. You'll find references to some of those in earlier posts here [just click on 'find posts' for any poster, then a search box comes up at the bottom, type 5G into this] Perhaps even worse, he doesn't even consider his own arguments. So...permanent exposure to sunlight is safe? Skin cancer? Oops. That's 6m ie halfway - with this level of research we're not going to learn anything, so I stopped. |