Re: Joy! Owen Jones is writing a book about Corbynism Archived Message
Posted by Ian M on September 20, 2020, 10:03 am, in reply to "Re: Joy! Owen Jones is writing a book about Corbynism"
Emotional intelligence?? OMG, pass the sick bucket, how intelligent is it when you completely fail to notice that people are manipulating you by playing the victim? What he's saying is that we should respect and devote time & attention to the feelings of comfortable people in the affluent west over the actual lived experience of Palestinians under the boot of the (mainly European) colonisation of their land. He's got nothing to say about their trauma or emotional state when they see the racist erasure of their political -- and actual -- existence as human beings. If he'd been around in the Americas during 'frontier' times Jones would have been clutching his pearls about the brave settler families "just looking for a place they can call home" and the suffering they faced at the hands of "dastardly injuns" and those who wrongheadedly supported them. Also this: 'I wanted to avoid political fatalism and defeatism, the notion that any transformative agenda for Labour is inherently doomed to defeat. I don’t think that. I think it’s achievable, but that the only way you can continue with the project is by accepting the mistakes and learning from them. The point of the book is to defend the idea that leftwing politics is viable.' I'd agree that it would be wise to learn from the mistake of listening to parasites like Jones and allowing them to direct your energy down pointless dead ends of 'self-reflection' which are actually ambushes for the enemies of leftist politics to surround neutralise any threat we might pose. 'Growing up in the late 90s and early 00s, I read John Pilger, Noam Chomsky and journalists such as Gary Younge, George Monbiot and, yes, Seumas Milne. Naomi Klein was immensely important – her writing on anti-globalism was a real lifeline for me at the time. She was on the left, she had a platform and she was saying something new and vital.' Wonder what they would make of his stance? The ones who never left the graun would probably be fans... I
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Message Thread:
- Joy! Owen Jones is writing a book about Corbynism - Ian M September 18, 2020, 1:59 pm
- Should be titled: Jeremy Corbyn: My Part in His Downfall. NM - johnlilburne September 18, 2020, 2:54 pm
- Re: Joy! Owen Jones is writing a book about Corbynism - Raskolnikov September 18, 2020, 3:21 pm
- Re: Joy! Owen Jones is writing a book about Corbynism - brooks September 18, 2020, 6:33 pm
- Great minds, etc... - Mark Doran September 18, 2020, 6:34 pm
- Learn lessons from it - Earn lessons from it. He's the young vicar ones nm - Focus September 18, 2020, 9:53 pm
- Re: Joy! Owen Jones is writing a book about Corbynism - Raskolnikov September 19, 2020, 7:27 pm
- could this be Corbyn's final humiliation or will that be his apology to Jones?....nm - Keith-264 September 20, 2020, 11:12 pm
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