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    Re: Chechnya.. Archived Message

    Posted by Tomski on October 25, 2020, 3:23 pm, in reply to "Chechnya.."

    Dear lord disagreement over politics does not give one the right to butcher civilians or stage black flag events...what psychotic cattle train are you driving Tomski?

    Stellar adhom there G, based my very short comment reminding you of Wahhabi Chechens.

    Now, just to make sure we are on the same page, and from Nafeez Ahmed:

    Chechnya – Jihad in the Caucasus

    The US flirtation with the al-Qaeda-Taliban nexus in Afghanistan was only part of wider US plan to secure key energy resources.

    Chechnya is one victim of this strategy. The encroachment of US-sponsored mujahidin operatives linked to Osama bin Laden transformed the character of the Chechen resistance movement by the late 1990s. Al-Qaeda’s hardline Islamist ideology was empowered, at the expense of Chechnya’s populist Sufi culture and traditions.
    Back in 1991, CIA veteran Richard Secord, a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, landed in Baku to set up a front company that would fly hundreds of al-Qaeda mujahidin from Afghanistan into Azerbaijan. By 1993, 2,000 mujahidin were recruited, converting Baku into a base for regional jihadi operations, which quickly extended into Dagestan and Chechnya.

    US intelligence remained deeply involved until the end of the 1990s. According to Yossef Bodanksy, then Director of the US Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, US Government officials participated in a formal meeting in Azerbaijan in December 1999 ‘in which specific programmes for the training and equipping of mujahidin from the Caucasus, Central/South Asia and the Arab world were discussed and agreed upon’. This, he said, culminated in ‘Washington’s tacit encouragement of both Muslim allies (mainly Turkey, Jordan and Saudi Arabia) and US “private security companies”... to assist the Chechens and their Islamist allies to surge in the spring of 2000 and sustain the ensuing jihad for a long time.’

    The US saw the sponsorship of ‘Islamist jihad in the Caucasus’ as a way to ‘deprive Russia of a viable pipeline route through spiralling violence and terrorism’.

    Also, from your reference:

    Shamil Basayev, who would later become the most important Chechen terrorist leader and mastermind behind the most infamous terror acts including the Beslan school hostage taking in which children fleeing the scene were shot in the backs by terrorists.

    Beslan school massacre:

    Most of the patter you provided is via The Islamic Human Rights Commission website, which pushes many Islamic buttons. You have obviously cherry-picked the bits that suit your agenda. Meanwhile, Nafeez has managed to put out some clarifying info by promoting his books there, which in a way is a polar opposite to prop you have chosen for reference.

    As far as I am concerned, ultimately all problems stem from Yeltsin’s disastrous mismanagement during his years in power 1991-99 and infiltration of takfiris into Russian Federation’s soft underbelly paid for by Saudi and organised by the Empire. Putin managed to deescalate the conflict by eventual placement of Ramzan Kadyrov in 2004 and giving relative autonomy to Chechen Republic.

    As far as I know Kadyrov has eliminated takfiris and things are relatively well there, from my readings. Meanwhile Putin has recognised the threat via Syria and acted on it and the rest is history, as they say.

    Something that is very fresh in the minds of the post USSR citizenry is the fact that Chechens were dispersed by Stalin into a number of other USSR republics. Another subject for research. There is a historical reasoning behind it, obviously. This has been exploited by the Empire in this instance. Also, not to forget the oil resources (one of the oldest in the region) in Chechnya, which have been now been acquired by the Chechen Republic (from Rosnef).

    So one creates the conditions for fundamentalism then exploits the polarisation for one's own ends murdering civilians as one does so and using black flag protocols for one's propaganda...exactly the same as NATO...why be an apologist for the Russian regime (also see thread below), ..? Putin is no comrade to the socialist and no friend to the cause of human emancipation either.....It's far to easy to fall for the polarisation and boy is it tedious.. (smacks of Stalinism too...)

    I think I can get a gist of what you are trying to say. Some whataboutery mixed in with adhoms. Next you will be calling me an Assad apologist as well as Putinbot : ). I agree with Ken about the copious amounts of kool aid you have ingested. All one has to do is compare and contrast the current Forever War by the Empire with any similar aggression by Russian Federation. No comparison. Tara.

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