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Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 12:05 am

https://skwawkbox.org/2024/05/17/video-braverman-gets-stony-silent-treatment-from-gaza-student-protesters/

Re: Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters

Posted by John Monro <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=John+Monro' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 12:11 am, in reply to "Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters"

Is there a sufficient reason for covering their faces?

Re: Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters

Posted by ceemac666 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=ceemac666' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 12:18 am, in reply to "Re: Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters"

Yes there is.This is not NZ.

Re: Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 12:29 am, in reply to "Re: Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters"

Is there a sufficient reason for covering their faces?

I would have thought there would be ample reason for them not to be identified. We live in a cyber-security state. Once recognised by the spooks (facial recognition) and others (Friends of Israel perhaps) they are liable to be corralled and neutralised and suffer consequences of standing up to genocide. They stand more chance if they are incognito, as much as possible. What's the point of being a target for these malign forces?

Re: Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters

Posted by John Monro <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=John+Monro' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 1:00 am, in reply to "Re: Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters"

Re: Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 1:29 am, in reply to "Re: Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters"

Maybe, but you still presume to live in a democracy which presumably you want to continue. Hiding your face is actually cooperating with the forces you wish to control. Obviously stating your opinion as a real person may come at a personal cost, but all such protests and movements do. So while I understand the reason, I am uneasy at seeing it. I would not hide my face in such a protest. And I am unsure too that remaining silent is a good policy either. Your arguments should be able to stand up to scrutiny wherever you are or whosoever you're talking to. Keep it polite and accurate. You're not going to convince Suella of much I'm sure, but perhaps others may see merit in your arguments. Hmm, an opportunity lost, methinks.

If wishes were fishes. Presuming to live in a democracy is a false premise imo. Let me elaborate ...

You say:
Obviously stating your opinion as a real person may come at a personal cost, but all such protests and movements do.

The state (or rather the state narrative) has made the opposition to genocide next to impossible. The cost to individuals that protest, has increased astronomically. This is not Martyn L King type protest, or anything of the sort that could be alluded to. We are in the new paradigm. New rules. I think, my apologies, that you have quite liberal rose tinted glasses on this issues and the cost to individuals is seriously neglected. Just me

Hijab

Posted by Shyaku <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Shyaku' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 7:12 am, in reply to "Re: Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters"

My 2 cents:

(1) The freedom to cover your face if you want to, should not even be a topic of discussion. Who is anyone outside the protest movement to criticize? Just lead by example, and go protest in metropolitan UK with your face uncovered yourself, if you feel strongly about it.

(2) On the silence: I was not particularly impressed. Yes its a defensive posture that worked. But so does having a set of pre-agreed talking points and staying strictly on-message without getting drawn into specious arguments. The latter would have the potential to put the other side on the defensive if done with discipline and skill.

- Shyaku

"having a set of pre-agreed talking points and staying strictly on-message..."

Posted by Morrissey <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Morrissey' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 9:38 am, in reply to "Hijab"

That is reasonable, given an interlocutor/opponent who is acting in good faith, and genuinely seeking to engage in discussion. Stella Braverman is as genuine and reasonable as her soul mates Alan Sugar or John Mann.

Shunning her, sending her to coventry, along with that twit beside her, was exactly the right strategy.

At some point, you have to learn to win ..

Posted by Shyaku <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Shyaku' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 20, 2024, 9:24 am, in reply to ""having a set of pre-agreed talking points and staying strictly on-message...""

Not just survive.

Finkelstein manages it against the biggest assholes.

I do respect your view though, and agree it could take a lifetime of practice (and abuse) to master.

As for her: Just water off a ducks back. She wasn’t dinted in the slightest.

Regards, love your posts, Shyaku.

Shyaku! How could you?

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 10:15 am, in reply to "Hijab"

"Pre-agreed" my Ricky Tomlinson! I am Inspector Knacker of the Language Polizei and I arrest you for syntactical inexactitude. The "pre" affix means "before", 'pre-agreed' means 'before agreed' not 'agreed before'.

You've been in Seppoland for too long, come home before it's too late. ;O)

The last working-class hero in England.

Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016
Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018
Jasper the Ruffian cat ? ? ? - 4 November 2021

I plead the 5th :-)

Posted by Shyaku <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Shyaku' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 20, 2024, 9:21 am, in reply to "Shyaku! How could you?"

More’n you can ever do :-)

Not sure about Assange mind.

Regards, Shyaku

Re: Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 10:07 am, in reply to "Re: Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters"

Plenty of other people show their faces, dissidents should use all of the non-violent tactics available to them. The old bloke was un-masked and referred the camera and the nazi guttersnipe to his poster. I hope that the dignified silence catches on.

The last working-class hero in England.

Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016
Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018
Jasper the Ruffian cat ? ? ? - 4 November 2021

Anyone normal would be discomfited by that wall of silence. But those two ghouls are impervious

Posted by Morrissey <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Morrissey' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 5:09 am, in reply to "Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters"

Braverman was as convincing as these two would-be provocateurs in New York...

https://www.tiktok.com/@nyxnyc/video/7295730829064506667

Re: Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 10:04 am, in reply to "Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters"

Saw something about this on the Heil website the other day. I doubt the article was as supportive. What's that bloke off GG doing swimming with a guttersnipe like Braverman?

The last working-class hero in England.

Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016
Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018
Jasper the Ruffian cat ? ? ? - 4 November 2021

Why waste time 'debating' with bad faith actors?

Posted by johnlilburne <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=johnlilburne' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 12:18 pm, in reply to "Skwawk: This is brilliant: Video: Braverman gets stony silent treatment from Gaza student protesters"

https://x.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1791813623737631110

Not only that .. but, they think that the conversation can be skewed their way ..

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 19, 2024, 11:27 pm, in reply to "Why waste time 'debating' with bad faith actors?"

If you have no conversation, 'skewing' the narrative is impossible. I like it, don't talk to the trolls. Ignore, they are not worth talking to. Smart.

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