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S/he's gorn fest due, say exit polls. nm

Posted by marknadim <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=marknadim' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 4, 2024, 10:15 pm

Re: S/he's gorn fest due, say exit polls: Que?: Do elaborate .. ta

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 4, 2024, 10:20 pm, in reply to "S/he's gorn fest due, say exit polls. nm"

Lots of Tory (Officials) MPs out....

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 4, 2024, 11:17 pm, in reply to "Re: S/he's gorn fest due, say exit polls: Que?: Do elaborate .. ta"

Ian Duncan Smith probably out....

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Re: Lots of Tory (Officials) MPs out....

Posted by Ed <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ed' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 4, 2024, 11:29 pm, in reply to "Lots of Tory (Officials) MPs out...."

Not Ian, loved that guy!

IDS!

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 4, 2024, 11:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Lots of Tory (Officials) MPs out...."

But....but his dad flew a Spitfire!

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Re: Lots of Tory (Officials) MPs out....

Posted by Ed <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ed' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 2:48 am, in reply to "Re: Lots of Tory (Officials) MPs out...."

Now you got that bloody Damnbusters theme playinng in my head!

Loveless Landslide...

Posted by Ken Waldron <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ken+Waldron' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 1:30 am, in reply to "S/he's gorn fest due, say exit polls. nm"

Sir Keir Starmer is on course to win a lower share of the vote than Jeremy Corbyn in a “loveless landslide”, projections suggest.

Calculations based on the exit poll suggest that Labour will secure just 36 per cent of the vote despite a projected 170-seat majority.

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Mr Corbyn, the former Labour leader, won 40 per cent of the vote when he led the party into the 2017 election, which he lost to Theresa May’s Conservative Party.

The exit poll predicted that Sir Keir will win 410 seats in a landslide victory, with the Tories reduced to just 131 MPs in their worst ever result.
Reform UK, led by Nigel Farage, is projected to win 13 constituencies whilst the Liberal Democrats are predicted to enjoy a resurgence with 61 seats.

But the huge expected margin of Labour’s victory in parliamentary numbers may mask a poorer than expected performance in terms of vote share.

Projections based on the exit poll, carried out by Electoral Calculus for GB News, suggested that the party could end up on just 36.1 per cent of the vote.

Meanwhile, the Conservatives are calculated to have secured 25.8 per cent, while Reform is put in third on 17.2 per cent despite likely only winning a handful of seats.

In stark contrast the Liberal Democrats, who have made huge inroads in Parliament, are only projected to have won 9.4 per cent of the vote.

Rory Stewart, a former Tory Cabinet minister, told Channel 4: “Labour may well have got a staggering majority with quite a low percentage of the vote.

“Reform may have ended up with quite a high percentage of the vote and a low number of seats. The Lib Dems might have got fewer votes and five times the number of seats.”

When the result was described on the programme as a “loveless landslide” he said: “I think it’s a big problem – 36 per cent of the vote in historical terms has been nothing.

“Nobody has won anything like this in history with 36 per cent of the vote. This is barely more than a third of the population voting for you.”

‘Electoral geography’ led to big win despite low vote share
Sir Keir’s projected share of the vote would be the lowest required to secure any parliamentary majority in recent times...

When Sir Tony Blair won his 179-seat majority against the Tories in 1997, he did so on the back of a 43.2 per cent share of the vote.

Boris Johnson won an 80-seat majority with 43.6 per cent at the last election in 2019, while David Cameron required 36.9 per cent in 2015 to secure a 10-seat majority...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/starmer-s-victory-dubbed-a-loveless-landslide-with-fewer-votes-than-corbyn/ar-BB1pqWaz

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So...going by the exit polls Starmer wins big on 4% less than Corbyn who actually lost... what gives? It's got to have been the redrawn constituency boundaries of which 90% have changed:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57400901

Re: Loveless Landslide...

...and of course not to forget that "Reform" has split the Tory vote. Must have been been galling to vote against all "them foreigners" only to see record immigration.

-I think we can conclude that the boat refugee Rwanda squirrel/distraction failed dramatically.

Shapps out, IDS er....remains....nm

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 3:15 am, in reply to "Re: Loveless Landslide..."

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GG out; lost by just over 1400 votes. Lab in ..nm

Posted by Auribus <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Auribus' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 3:29 am, in reply to "Shapps out, IDS er....remains....nm"

Corbyn win 24,120 votes, Lab Nargund 16,873. election turnout 67.5%, down from 2019’s 71.6%...nm

Posted by Auribus <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Auribus' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 3:38 am, in reply to "GG out; lost by just over 1400 votes. Lab in ..nm"

Nigel Farage win on 21,225 votes – a majority of 8,405...nm

Posted by Auribus <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Auribus' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 3:43 am, in reply to "Corbyn win 24,120 votes, Lab Nargund 16,873. election turnout 67.5%, down from 2019’s 71.6%...nm"

Mordaunt, Shapps, Coffey and Keegan out...nm

Posted by Auribus <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Auribus' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 4:29 am, in reply to "Nigel Farage win on 21,225 votes – a majority of 8,405...nm"

Goodbye and good riddance. And don't let the door hit your bottom on the way out.

Though I hear Cons like that sort of thing. :-)

Bristol Central; Lab out Greens co-leader Carla Denyer in by massive majority...nm

Posted by Auribus <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Auribus' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 5:02 am, in reply to "Mordaunt, Shapps, Coffey and Keegan out...nm"

Rees Mogg out, Lab in...nm

Posted by Auribus <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Auribus' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 5:07 am, in reply to "Bristol Central; Lab out Greens co-leader Carla Denyer in by massive majority...nm"

Jonathan Ashworth, shadow Cabinet Office minister, loses seat in Leicester South...nm

Posted by Auribus <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Auribus' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 5:17 am, in reply to "Rees Mogg out, Lab in...nm"

YES!!!

Sadly Jess Phillips held on

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 6:29 am, in reply to "Jonathan Ashworth, shadow Cabinet Office minister, loses seat in Leicester South...nm"

by a slim majority. ~11k to ~10.

The usual suspects are already claiming, as pretty much everyone and their dog expected, that the wider result is a "vindication of Labour" as if they all voted for them because of them and what they promise, not simply becuse they are not the other lot.

Of course acknowledging the truth would leave them open to awkward questions about you know, the system and democracy.....

My inner tribalist is laughing his ass off at the scum getting turfed out but the rest of me has no excitement at all knowing all that's happened is massah changed the colour of his whip.

Also, seeing Reform creeping up in a lot of places is dreadful.

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

FFS, Lab/MI5 stooge wins against Craig Murray

Posted by sashimi <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=sashimi' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 6:41 am, in reply to "Sadly Jess Phillips held on"

https://www.lep.co.uk/news/general-election-2024-blackburn-has-a-new-independent-mp-after-decison-came-down-to-132-votes-4691808

He tried - in 2005 against Jack Straw and this year. Respect Craig Murray. nm

Posted by marknadim <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=marknadim' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 7:36 am, in reply to "FFS, Lab/MI5 stooge wins against Craig Murray"

Liz Truss out. Lab in...nm

Posted by Auribus <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Auribus' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 8:12 am, in reply to "He tried - in 2005 against Jack Straw and this year. Respect Craig Murray. nm"

Sadly, Leanne Mohamed beaten by Wes Streeting by just 528 votes... nm

Baddenoch and Braverman both in too

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 8:32 am, in reply to "Sadly, Leanne Mohamed beaten by Wes Streeting by just 528 votes... nm"

Wtf is wrong with people?

West of Wolvo, going into Shropshire is solid blue too with blobs of Reform (ffs) who also polled relatively well here. Not really surprising given it's all affluent, farmer/retiree territory but still.

I've already caught some TV coverage by accident and heard some cock womble blathering on about "a moment of history" re: the results as if anything is about to change.

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

Re: Anyone have thoughts on Green candidates & their party results? nm

Posted by Jackie <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Jackie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 5, 2024, 4:10 pm, in reply to "S/he's gorn fest due, say exit polls. nm"

Re: Anyone have thoughts on Green candidates & their party results? nm

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 6, 2024, 12:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Anyone have thoughts on Green candidates & their party results? nm"

They have a 'leader' who looks and sounds like an establishment stooge....

The last working-class hero in England.

Clio the cat, ? July 1997 - 1 May 2016
Kira the cat, ? ? 2010 - 3 August 2018
Jasper the Ruffian cat ? ? ? - 4 November 2021

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