Is there a difference between pro-immigrant and pro-immigration?
Posted by Shyaku on August 9, 2024, 6:25 pm
Tony G writes, down the board “refugees are welcome here”! An emotive statement. And other such phrases.
But I am a bit weirded-out by the left, since in the real world immigration is actually all about cheap labor: Turks in Germany, central americans in the US, etc. etc. I thought this was anathema to the left. It certainly is for me. It is the globalist dream - the cheapest possible labor markets.
We should be completely tolerant of immigrants, but why are we in favor of smashing up middle eastern countries then creaming off people to do the dirty jobs in our own countries + creaming off some of their educated elite that we don’t have to pay to educate? Why do people think our elites allowed so many “migrants” to enter quite liberally? Because they care about peoples’ wellbeing do you really think?
I’ve yet to see a clear explanation - it just seems like rather wooly thinking to me. We should be in favor of actual real, tangible development in their countries of origin, it seems to me, primarily, so they can share some of the benefits we have without actually moving.
In this sense, the current bru-ha-ha is not so clear-cut to me. The left has given the other side the anti-global-corporatist agenda, which really should be ours, while screaming that the other side are fascist.
Re: Is there a difference between pro-immigrant and pro-immigration?
Any port in a storm, blaming the victims of US imperial state-wrecking is a little unsporting. I suggest that it's a myth that migrants undermine wages, if it happens it must be state policy since the rate for the job has been abolished. That's politics not economics.The last working-class hero in England.
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It is the globalist dream - the cheapest possible labor markets.
There is some truth in that. Divide and conquer.
We should be completely tolerant of immigrants, but why are we in favor of smashing up middle eastern countries then creaming off people to do the dirty jobs in our own countries + creaming off some of their educated elite that we don’t have to pay to educate?
Another truth bomb fwiw. Why oh why are we we bombing them? .. that question remains in abeyance. For their own good perhaps : ). We gain.
I’ve yet to see a clear explanation - it just seems like rather wooly thinking to me. We should be in favor of actual real, tangible development in their countries of origin, it seems to me, primarily, so they can share some of the benefits we have without actually moving.
It seems obvious, but this is not in west's interest, so fogget about it.
One, demographics rules in Europe and USA (Russia and China too. Nevermind Japan : )). The magic formula of 2.1 children per couple, just to pay pensions if anything. Hence immigrants are interesting.
Is there a difference between 'migrant' and 'visiting foreign student'...?ration?
on August 9, 2024, 6:25 pm