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Southgate hidden VIN?

Posted by Steve N User icon on 2/20/2017, 2:39 pm

Hi All,

Has anyone every had a Southgate built car that did not have a hidden firewall VIN stamp? I pulled the evaporator box today on my '68 expecting to see a VIN stamped in the usual spot and much to my surprise...nothing. Looked all over the panel and nothing.

Thanks!
Steve

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Posted by Warren L. User icon on 2/21/2017, 7:03 am, in reply to "Southgate hidden VIN?"
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Nothing stamped on the top of the cowl? We have a Southgate 68 but haven't pulled it apart to look for one

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Posted by Steve N User icon on 2/21/2017, 10:38 am, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"

No Warren, not a thing. Not near the blower opening. Not on the top. Just checked it over again to make sure. Not sure what to think. Maybe a miss at the factory...I'm assuming Southgate stamped the cars like the other plants.

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Posted by Jon K User icon on 2/21/2017, 12:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"
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I have found a few 67s and 68s without firewall VIN stamping. Cant say what plant though. I remember a California 67 wagon like that but the exact plant escapes me.

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Posted by Steve N User icon on 2/22/2017, 12:29 pm, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"

Well, gave one more look see and not finding anything. It does have a nice big "G" chalk mark which I'm guessing is for the exterior or interior color both of which are gold. Thanks Jon and Warren! Steve

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Posted by Steve N User icon on 5/20/2017, 5:25 pm, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"

Well, this Southgate car did have a hidden frame VIN stamp. Also nicely preserved part no & date stamp.

Steve

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Posted by Warren L. User icon on 2/25/2017, 7:58 pm, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"
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Cool writing! I saved the pic for reference. And I believe I have seen cars with no partial vin on the cowl. Can't remember the year/plant off hand.

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Posted by Arden Marquardt User icon on 2/22/2017, 3:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"

I thought I heard once that a VIN was on the frame on some of these cars. Is that true? Like the police knew where to look on the frame.

-Arden

PS...Is there supposed to be a VIN near the blower opening? If someone has a pic of that...let's see one.

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Posted by john U User icon on 2/23/2017, 1:53 pm, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"

Arden
My vin is stamped on the frame. It is a 69 St. Louis car.
John

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Posted by jay User icon on 5/20/2017, 5:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"

i have a 69 caprice from st louis plant could not find vin on frame where was your vin found on frame?had the one on firewall

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Posted by John U User icon on 5/23/2017, 3:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"

Jay
My vin and date is located on the side of the frame behind the drivers side rear wheel .
John

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Posted by Fossil_Fuel User icon on 5/23/2017, 4:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"

John,
The number on the side of your frame is not your VIN (unless something very strange happened.
The date code on the side of your frame is the frame manufacture date and the number on the side is the part number for the frame.
If there is number on the side of your frame that matches your VIN I would like to see a picture !!
Usually they are always stamped on the top of the frame not the side.

Craig
1964 Impala SS 327/300 survivor
1967 Impala SS 327 Triple Black Hardtop
1967 Impala 4 speed bench, Black w/Maroon interior
http://craigaacars.shutterfly.com/pictures

Re: Southgate hidden VIN?

Posted by John U User icon on 5/25/2017, 10:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"

Craig
I was in a hurry , Your are right , part # not vin. Thanks for letting me know , although it is stamped on the side of the frame on my car. Thanks John

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Posted by Jon K User icon on 2/24/2017, 2:30 pm, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"
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My 67 is St Louis and no VIN stamp was found

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Posted by HMC User icon on 2/25/2017, 4:42 pm, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"

Of the 10-12 cars 69's I've parted over the years , I've only seen a couple that did not . Upside down stamping is usually easily seen once the heater box is removed .

I can't remember the plant for one of them, but my Doraville GA built 69 did not have one on the firewall , but did have it on the frame

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Posted by Arden Marquardt User icon on 2/25/2017, 4:25 pm, in reply to "Re: Southgate hidden VIN?"

My '67 is a ST. Louis built car too. I have never looked for this hidden VIN. Where would it be?

-Arden

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