Agreed NF, I have a shimano aerlex here aswell but it seems to have become a bit of a shelf queen at present as it has not got a decent rod to sit on plus the larger power handle knob on the penn is more comfortable aswell funnily enough I paid less for the penn brand new than what I did for the shimano not sure if it was a parrallel import or a genuine stock clearance but is certainly keeping me happy till I can get a series 5 live liner I just need to get another 300 meters of sufix XL strong 10KG to finish off spooling the hua and it already has damn near 100 meters of cheap mono as backing and it still has quarter of a spool of room left so I would hate to spool the prick up with 10kg braid.