Thanks guys it has been a long time since I have caught anything that big to used to medium sized kahawai and throwback snapper my son duked it out with the snapper (but he did not feel like doing any casting so that one was a team effort lol) but those two trevs were the best fight I had in ages and one of them was on the veritas which was its first large fish also and it got the biggest trev out of the two.