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200+ m

Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 21/3/2016, 5:19 am

The NZACA Distance Casting Club had a great day at Rotorua on Sunday. There were six casts over 200m in pretty average conditions.

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

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Posted by Yoey <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Yoey' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 21/3/2016, 11:39 pm, in reply to "200+ m"

A huge thanks to those who travelled to cast in very average conditions. Nice to see some who have been missing from these events for some time and great to see the Records get a scare. The 100gr Record of 222m was missed by 6m at 216m. Not bad for someone who hasn't practiced for over three months. Biggest cast 218m and most impressive was a bust off that travelled over three hundred meters. This shows the extent of the courses needed at this level. Again I must offer a huge thank you to Karin for the photo to head our FB page and to Phil for the use of the UKSF weight Sinkers. Both are much appreciated.

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Posted by fin-nor <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=fin-nor' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 22/3/2016, 10:31 pm, in reply to "Re: 200+ m"

I would love to get out onto a casting court just to see what distances I am actually getting.

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Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 23/3/2016, 8:25 am, in reply to "Re: 200+ m"

It is a thing worth doing. It gives you a good base to improve from if you want to and will bring down to earth those who believe they are casting huge distances without measuring.

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

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Posted by ABU Man <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=ABU+Man' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 23/3/2016, 9:54 am, in reply to "Re: 200+ m"

When are results going to be posted?

Re: 200+ m

Posted by racepics <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=racepics' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 23/3/2016, 1:33 pm, in reply to "Re: 200+ m"

I think the average surfcaster on the beach casts about 40-50 meters at best.

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Posted by Hangler <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Hangler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 23/3/2016, 6:37 pm, in reply to "Re: 200+ m"

You may very well be right, RP. But what has the results of casting a plain sinker with no terminal gear attached, got to do with fishing from the shore? Swivels, bling, release clips, beads, hooks and bait are all built in to offer stiff resistance, especially when casting into a head wind.

Many people who figure they can regularly hit 180 metres on the casting circuit are only fooling themselves if they believe they are hitting that distance casting off a shelving shingle beach with the terminal tackle loaded to catch fish.

Re: 200+ m

Posted by racepics <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=racepics' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 23/3/2016, 8:14 pm, in reply to "Re: 200+ m"

My best "grass cast" is 128m. Running on the theory that terminal tackle and bait will cost you 30-40% of your distance, I should in favourable conditions be able to get a bait out about 70m.
In reality, favourable conditions (20 knots+ of offshore wind etc) don't occur that often. I'm guessing that most of my actual fishing is done in the 50m zone.
But then, this thread IS about dry land casting and not fishing, the two have little relevance to each other unless you are using one to better the other

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Posted by Hangler <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Hangler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 23/3/2016, 9:51 pm, in reply to "Re: 200+ m"

With you all the way, RP. It's a personal belief but I hold the strongest view that good bait presentation will put more fish in your catch bag than distance casting ever will.

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Posted by Neil <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Neil' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 23/3/2016, 11:58 pm, in reply to "Re: 200+ m"

With a soft bait on a clipped down rig I measured a cast around the 185 m range .

Longrange casting is just another tool to be used as needed .
Just like blinged baits reading the beach /tides /moon etc etc are all tools to be used .

With the ability to reach out further you give yourself more fishable water .

The fish may be witen the first 50 m of water most of the time but if nothings working in close the person with a big cast can try their luck out further . Without a decent casting ability you will never know whats out there.

Its all about options the ones who can cast further are just giving themselves more fishing options.

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Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 24/3/2016, 12:01 am, in reply to "Re: 200+ m"

Well Hangler good to see you back on deck but you really didnt need to twist the thread around to suit your beliefs.
Learning to cast distance WILL improve your fishing. Thats a no brainer. It doesnt mean you have to cast "full noise" every time. As you have found out there are times when fish are very close. Try moki fishing in Hawkes Bay if you dont believe that.
The days they are further out you had better be a good wader or learn to cast further.
ps. Its not difficult!

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

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Posted by fin-nor <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=fin-nor' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 24/3/2016, 12:05 am, in reply to "Re: 200+ m"

Plus casting in front of others is a good way to find out if you are going wrong somewhere or maybe pick up a pointer or two about your casting.

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Posted by Beachbum <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Beachbum' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/3/2016, 8:18 am, in reply to "Re: 200+ m"

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Re: 200+ m

Posted by Yoey <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Yoey' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/3/2016, 1:53 pm, in reply to "Re: 200+ m"

Without wanting to create a storm and maybe soothe the water, there are two specifics that need to be understood with regard to Distance casting. Firstly, this is a recognised International Sport that, apart from the gear, has no relevance to going fishing. To try and relate the efforts involved in achieving distances over 180m to casting rigs and baits is another book. Those flinging 150gms of lead these distances completely understand that casting when fishing is another reality.
Secondly. It is an opportunity for those who would like to improve their distances so that they can achieve a bigger range when fishing. I am the first to admit I thought I could cast a good distance until I accepted some guidence which saw my distance going from around 80m out to 120 with rig and bait, 178m in competition.
Of interest, I haven't met anyone who has walked off the beach believing they cast two hundred meters and backed it up on a course. I welcome anyone to attend our events. Those involved are all happy to help with improving your abilities.

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Posted by Phill <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Phill' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 26/3/2016, 10:52 am, in reply to "Re: 200+ m"
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I agree with you Yoey it is not necessary to cast 150mtrs on the HB beaches or the south coast but on the wild west it can make the difference.
Learning to cast the Pendulum style is an advantage with clipped up/down baits or on a beach with a lot of rubbish on it.
The pendulum and swing casts will also help you load the rod which in turn will improve your distance.
An old friend of mine who is now in his 80's does a lovely half pendulum for fishing and he achieves 80 plus mtrs with no effort at all, some thing to to look at maybe.
So in a nut shell Distance Casting has every thing to do with fishing, ie rod design and materials, line,reels both fixed and free etc.
Think about this, I bet most of you have an HDMI TV do you complain that its to clear.

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