Oh yeah, and I ended up throwing that stuff away while my mother was in hospital or something. I never took the garbage out so it would be suspicious if I suddenly did. And since my mother has no respect for privacy, she'd paw through the garbage and wonder about why I had a huge vibrator and lingerie. I also threw out a bunch of drawings and shit that I did as a kid.

But it makes me wonder, she's talking about her nipples being hard and she said that she was trying to lick her tit before...was she sitting there buck naked and masturbating? I sort of assumed that she was just putting her hand down the front of her pants.

Actually, no because she sometimes said that she was using a vibrator so that would require at least the pants to be pulled down a bit.

But yeah, she would tell me to get completely naked. I didn't do it but she'd pester me to take my shirt off (still had a t-shirt on) and pull my jeans down and whatnot. So it suggests perhaps that that's how she did it.

I didn't want to get completely naked because my mother could and did come downstairs at any time. I can quickly zip up and explain the shirt being off ("it's a warm January") but totally naked would take some serious explaining.

I asked her if her father knew that she was up so late and she said "of course he knows". Being from England, I suppose that she's more comfortable with the incest stuff. Her father watching her in front of the computer totally naked working a vibrator.

Personally, I find that stuff gross. But whatever. I know how it is to have a disturbed parent creeping over you. I suppose Lisa just got over it. "Look, Dad. We have to live together and I'm going to masturbate in my room while totally naked so you can look but don't touch." It's good to set boundaries in a parent/adult child relationship like this.