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Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by Peter Warman <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=Peter+Warman' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2008, 3:41 pm
Peter Warman - Administrator

Hi Lads

Honda Accord I-VTEC SE (Mk 6)
03/03/2000
SHHCH6740YU007797
F18B2E139799

This came in this afternoon with the ABS light on, the problem i have is that i cannot find a DLC to connect to

MODIS says 16 pin NS behind carpet, all that is there is a blank hole where a 16 pin DLC should be

Multiscan shows 4 locations. Below is the only loose connector i can find (5 pin), i cannot see any thing that looks like it will plug into the cables i have (3 pin)

So is this the DLC? or does ABS have one tucked away somewhere

Peter

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by Glyn Morgan <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT2543' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2008, 4:00 pm, in reply to "Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Glyn Morgan

Hi Peter

It should be under the carpet n/s transmission tunnel near centre console.

Glyn

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by john weddup <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT5430' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2008, 4:22 pm, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
John Weddup

Some are also just behind/above nearside side kick panel.

john

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by lee mackintosh <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT1348' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2008, 4:35 pm, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Lee Mackintosh

i had the exact same problem with a year 2000 Honda Accord, doesn't hae a 19 pin DLC. My car has a 5 pin like yours and a 2 pin for flash code use and wasn't far from the 5 pin connector.

The 2 pin connector has a cover over it as well. I had a fault with the auto gearbox and gearbox codes were done by flash code as well.

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Hi Glyn

Yes it should be there as described with Autodata, MODIS and Multiscan, but just a hole where it should be. Dont think i have ever spent so much time looking, had carpets up, kick panels off (both sides) and have a crick in my neck looking up under the dash, all i can see at the moment is the 5 pin........i will have another look tomorrow

Thanks for you replies John and Lee

Peter

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by andyhyoung <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT5148' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2008, 5:22 pm, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Andrew Young

For some reason the 1.8 model Accord does not have a 16 pin Obd socket.Use the fly lead connector as found.Not sure what there is to connect into it.I think this is a dedicated Honda lead.hth

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by martin young <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT2736' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2008, 5:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Martin Young

just done one of these too and got in using the 5 pin connector using carmen scan mine had no 16 pin dlc
martin

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by Glyn Morgan <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT2543' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2008, 6:00 pm, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Glyn Morgan

Hi Peter

I thought you would have found it if it was in the usual place.

I have a 2002 Accord so I was confident in giving correct info

Glyn

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by lee mackintosh <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT1348' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2008, 6:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Lee Mackintosh

just looked on autodata and it says abs codes can be read by either diagnostic tool or by flash code method.

Bridge pins 3&5 of 5 pin connector and you can read flash codes.

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Thanks Lee will take a fresh look in the morning

Thats interesting Martin, did the Carmen come with the 5 pin connector, the Multiscan only gives you the option to connect to 16 / 2 / 3 but no 5, and no 5 pin connector

Peter

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by martin young <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT2736' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2008, 7:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Martin Young

hi peter
yes the carmen comes with the 5 pin connector as standard seems strange multiscan doesnt
martin

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Hi Martin

Thought i had better check, so just looked on V-TECH website an the multiscan does not list a 5 pin in the kit, on Maverick website Carmen comes with 5 pin

.......and i thought i had all the jap stuff covered, just goes to show you cant always beleive the sales hype

Peter

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by martin young <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT2736' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2008, 8:27 pm, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Martin Young

peter
sales hype? dont know what you mean

seriously i have only heard good reports on the multiscan so i am surprised its not only in the kit but appears to be not listed?
martin

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by Nigel Yardley <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT2837' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2008, 9:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Nigel Yardley

I've had a trader bring me three of these in the last couple of weeks.... all had 2 pin connector under n/s glovebox, clipped into a blank socket, bridge out with split pin for flash codes...
We have launch and that only has 3 pin connector (i think it was 3????)

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by Matt Elliott <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT1416' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2008, 10:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Mattew Elliott

Hi Nigel, out of those three how many turned out to be a n/s/r sensor???

Matt

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by Nigel Yardley <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT2837' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2008, 9:29 am, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Nigel Yardley

Funny that....2 out of three

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Right had a look again this morning and found the other 2 pin connector

I suspect the reason there is not a 5 pin with the Multiscan is because you don't need one

. They supply you with a nice 2 pin link lead

I linked the 2 pin plug which was for Engine Management... no flash codes

I then linked pin 3 and 5 on the 5 pin connector and got:

15 Wheel speed sensor right rear - open circuit
54 Relay inoperative

According to Autodata the relay in not accessible as its built into the unit. Tried removing multiplug and refitting in case of bad connection........is this looking like a new unit?

Many thanks for all the replies

Peter

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by Sean Connelly <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT5507' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2008, 10:34 am, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"

Hi Peter,

Does the Relay DTC come back if you erase them? Usual fault for Honda ABS is wheel speed sensor, though did have a modulator fault on my brothers 97 Civic VTEC that meant finding a used modulator assembly.

The 5 pin connectors do seem to be popular on this age of Accord only, with only the later ones going 16 pin. They also split the systems as well, so bridging the SCS (2 pin) connector doesn't always flash DTCs for all systems.

Our Honda tool has 3, 5 & 16pin connectors.

Didn't Mike W have a problem with his Multiscan the other day on a Honda Diesel

Though I think he was just a little out of date on updates

HTH

Sean

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by Sean Mc Gettigan <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT5291' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2008, 11:01 am, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Sean McGettigan

Hi Peter, I've seen the relay inop fault code before on Honda ABS with wss faults present.After repairing the wss fault and the system self tests it cleared on all the ones I'd seen.
Warn the customer that this is the repair route that needs to be taken and cover your back.
Poss due to the relay being inop as the system is faulty?
Hth Sean

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Hi Sean

I have cleared the codes and now only the wheel speed sensor fault (15) has returned, so i will let the customer know that it needs to be tested and replaced if required, will let him try it over the weekend to see if the other code returns

The customer just wanted me to pull the codes and advise as he had just spent £500:00 on service and brakes a few days ago at a UCCC down the road, when he telephoned them back 2 days later (ABS light came on) they told him they could not help with his ABS problem

, they did not have anything to test with, so they refered him to me

So i may see him on Monday or he may take it back to the other garage

Thanks for the info

Peter

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by Peter Rainsley <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT5418' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2008, 11:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Peter Rainsley

Peter,
I have brought this up with Viresh before who insisted there wasn't a five pin Honda DLC. As you have discovered, ABS blink codes are accessible, but is datastream also avalable, or is that only to Carman Scan users?
Peter

Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location

Posted by Michael Whitworth <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT5568' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2008, 8:57 am, in reply to "Re: Honda Accord 1.8 VTEC 2000 - ABS Light on - DLC location"
Mike Whitworth - Administrator

Hi Sean,

>>>>Didn't Mike W have a problem with his Multiscan the other day on a Honda Diesel Though I think he was just a little out of date on updates<<<<

Yes he certainly did, but even though I hate to admit it, I did get comms with ( LA argh UN eek CH ouch) for boost pressure solenoid which was actually the fault. a new solenoid cured this one.

Updating multiscan still didn't help either,

I have recently had a few comms issues with multiscan which is inevitable but frustrating and dissapointing as I have always (and still do) rated this tool.

Mike

M.O.M. Miserable Old Manc

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