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Nissan Micra 1.0 CR10DE 2003 - Code P0011 Cam and Crank waveform needed please - Fixed #

Posted by James Eardley on June 8, 2012, 12:42 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2003
Engine Size and Code *: 1.0 CR10DE
( Optional ) Scanner Used: Modis
( Optional) Fault Codes: p0011 inlet cam timing over advanced

Hi

I have got this vehicle in from another garage who has replaced the timing chain and the vehicle is under performing and it is throwing the above code up.

I have got a CR10DE cam and crank waveform but I haven,t labelled my capture up properly .

My capture looks like the 2006 1.2 micra known good capture in the archives.

If my waveform is correct I have proven that the inlet cam timing is indeed advanced.

My intake vacuum is also low at 14 hg and erratic.

Everything is pointing to the timing but could someone please confirm the 1.0 and 1.2 have the same cam and crank sync.
or
Even better post a CR10DE cam and crank sync.

I am hoping to get some repeat business through showing them my accurate investigation with (waveforms) proof.

Thanks in advance
James

Re: Nissan Micra (Cam and Crank waveform needed please)

Posted by Alan Ganter <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=ukat3444' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 8, 2012, 9:53 pm, in reply to "Nissan Micra (Cam and Crank waveform needed please)"
Alan Ganter

I would think with the code description and the

manifold vacuum would be enough to have the chain

back off, but its not a 5 min job on these..

Re: Nissan Micra (Cam and Crank waveform needed please)

Posted by Carl Ford <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT1822' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 9, 2012, 10:54 am, in reply to "Re: Nissan Micra (Cam and Crank waveform needed please)"
Carl Ford

I have a known good waveform at work but am not back in till Tuesday if that's any good

Regards
Carl

Re: Nissan Micra (Cam and Crank waveform needed please)

Posted by Lee Mackintosh <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ukautotalk4/info/user=UKAT1348' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on June 9, 2012, 12:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Nissan Micra (Cam and Crank waveform needed please)"

I have a couple of images from 2 different cars and they've both been almost identical. 1.0 or 1.2 engines.

Just one note that i found out after replaceing the timing chain and the car still didnt' run very well after a while even though the timing chain started off timed up perfect.

Remove the VVT solenoid valve and try to operate in manually as the one i did was seized in the advanced position and logged the same code.

I managed to free it off but the ecu then had no control command but the customer was happy to leave it not working as the car is running perfect. That was nearly 2 years ago.

The top image is when the solenoid was sticking. Activate the solenoid valve with your scantool and try to advance the timing as its running to see if it alters engine note.

If you have another scanner cope the cmp/ckp whilst trying to activate vvt solenoid.

thanks
lee

Fixed #

Posted by James Eardley on June 12, 2012, 9:05 am, in reply to "Re: Nissan Micra (Cam and Crank waveform needed please)"
Message modified by board administrator June 12, 2012, 2:16 pm

Thanks for the replies.

Lee
Thanks for sharing your advice and captures.

This one turned out to be the gasket/gauze for the VVT oil feed and return. When you are installing the timing chain the instructions are to apply air (above 3 bar) to one of the oil return galleries to release the cam VVT locking device.

The gasket had broken between the oil feed and the oil return, even though the CAM was locked when the garage built the engine up upon start up the oil pressure was unlocking the cam again and and the inlet cam was advancing 23 degrees.

This is the gasket that is broke between the oil feed and the return hole you put air in to unlock the inlet cam.

Thanks again
James

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