Re: So T is an anthropogenic climate change denier Archived Message Posted by turtleman on February 10, 2019, 11:38 pm, in reply to "So T is an anthropogenic climate change denier" Thank you for confirming that you do not wish to converse in good faith. Nowhere did I deny anthropogenic climate change. Neither did Peterson, though he might have more doubt than I. My views are not identical to Peterson. I simply said that his larger point (i.e. the problem of what to do about it and how) is true. It's a world crisis in a time of concentrated powers in a climate of radical ideological divides. The situation brings to mind a great Einstein quote, which can be adapted to this situation: "Climate change does not pose a new problem, but makes all the more urgent the solving of an already long existing problem." The problem with Marxian dialectics is that it reduces everything down to material concepts, oppressor/oppressed, right/wrong. The sad fact, as finer minds have always known well, is that the problem is deeply and fundamentally psychological and, for lack of a better term, moral. And moral is NOT simply right/wrong. "He/she is a racist, I am not." This is utterly childish and comes nowhere near the truth. And yet, this is the state of most discourse these days. The more complex and massive a problem is, the more sophisticated and intelligent our politics must be. And I see very little out there. Just a lot of emotion, hysterical judgment and virtue signalling. It is no surprise, given over a century of massive social engineering, natural psychological damage from the nuclear threat, and runaway atheism, narcissism and nihilism. turtleman turtleman Message Thread: Jordan Peterson on Climate Change & Climate Policy - Tomski February 8, 2019, 7:16 pm He rates Lomborg? Oh dear... - Ian M February 9, 2019, 12:07 am Re: He rates Lomborg? Oh dear... - turtleman February 9, 2019, 3:48 am Correction: - turtleman February 9, 2019, 3:59 am Re: Correction: - Adamski February 9, 2019, 7:56 am Re: Correction: - turtleman February 9, 2019, 2:13 pm Re: Correction: - ceemac666 February 9, 2019, 10:20 pm Re: Correction: - turtleman February 10, 2019, 1:22 am So T is an anthropogenic climate change denier - Adamski February 10, 2019, 10:56 am Re: So T is an anthropogenic climate change denier - turtleman February 10, 2019, 11:38 pm Re: Correction: - Ken Waldron February 10, 2019, 3:13 pm Re: Correction: - turtleman February 10, 2019, 11:40 pm Re: Correction: - Ian M February 9, 2019, 8:05 pm   Searching