Don't agree Archived Message Posted by margo on July 25, 2019, 12:27 pm, in reply to "Another questioning piece, related to DOrlov's piece linked 6 down, on the difficulty of knowing" I see what you're getting at, RhG, but I don't buy the idea that we can't know anything for certain. I think that propagandists love that idea (as the CIA chap said) because if people can be persuaded that they can never know anything, then you get a demotivated, disengaged, apathetic and clueless population as a result, which 100% suits those who prefer not to be challenged. Most things, many things, can be known. The truth of a matter can be got at. Bank balances, X-Ray results, the figure on a paycheck, leaking roof, car accident, pregnancy, fraud, malfeasance, baseless lies, etc - each thing can be assessed on its own merits, using verifiable checking methods and methodologies that have stood the test of time. [Some of this "Moon" scepticism relies on the question: "But how did they get through the Van Allen Belts?". If you research this, you see that scientists agree and accept that Apollo avoided the radiation of the Van Allen Belts by taking the correct trajectory. Sure, NASA still explores ways to get through the Belts without having to stick to a limited trajectory, but that doesn't mean the original team didn't/couldn't make it through.] Each 'event' that arouses scepticism needs to be thoroughly assessed on its own merits - rather than mashing everything together and then pointing at the mash-up to ask whether we should trust any sources, any sources at all? Critical thinking requires us to look at a couple of sources... then consult a few other expert sources if necessary. Rational, methodical, critical and common sense thinking (which has proven itself in the medical, IT, construction, aviation industries, for eg) can be counted on. Primary source info and hard data (what Wikileaks proposes) also helps us tremendously, in determining what's actually going on. Message Thread: Another questioning piece, related to DOrlov's piece linked 6 down, on the difficulty of knowing - Rhisiart Gwilym July 25, 2019, 7:15 am Re: Another questioning piece, related to DOrlov's piece linked 6 down, on the difficulty of knowing - Rich July 25, 2019, 11:10 am Don't agree - margo July 25, 2019, 12:27 pm What you suggest is what I do, in practice, M. Don't we all? But I'm haunted all the same by that - Rhisiart Gwilym July 25, 2019, 1:29 pm Common sense and gut feeling can be relied on (nm) - margo July 25, 2019, 1:54 pm Hmm, hasn't helped much in untangling the (repeatedly re-demonstrated) 'impossibilities' of - for - Rhisiart Gwilym July 27, 2019, 7:54 am Simply this .. - Shyaku July 27, 2019, 10:08 am   Searching