Granted Adamski. Sensible comments unlike the 'first' lot of eco-comments we had on the film website (if you were paying attention : )). At least these guys stepped back and started discussing the issues. My problem with the film, well, not the film as such, but the aftermath, is that Moore did not have the calculations in his back pocket. In other words, it's a low budget movie about an idea (good idea to my mind) about the environmentalist movement/ideas with some content being dated. Calcs would sort the game out. ERoEI (Rhis's idea frankly).