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How Israelis justify genocide to themselves | The Marc Steiner Show

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 18, 2024, 4:42 pm

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...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

Re: How Israelis justify genocide to themselves | The Marc Steiner Show

Posted by Ed <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ed' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 18, 2024, 6:20 pm, in reply to " How Israelis justify genocide to themselves | The Marc Steiner Show "

Her remarks about how ordinary Israelis don't want what is happening to carry on happening and that they don't really know what is going on in Gaza and Lebanon goes against pretty much everything I have read or listened to from the likes of Finkelstein and Abby Martin and many other commentators on this genocide.
I thought the polls showed that the majority of Israelis support the genocide and would have no problem upping the killing and torture.
I mean, there were plenty willing to go on the rampage to protect the raping IDF scum from being arrested and then there are those who would like rape to be an "official policy" and loudly proclaim it on Israeli media...I can't see them doing that if they thought saying such things would be very unpopular and the population were not behind them, too.
I veer on the side of those who proclaim Israel to be a "lunatic state".

Not sure what to make of her commentary to be honest...might have to listen again as I was a bit preoccupied the first time around.

Re: How Israelis justify genocide to themselves | The Marc Steiner Show

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 18, 2024, 6:40 pm, in reply to "Re: How Israelis justify genocide to themselves | The Marc Steiner Show "

I agree that is a fairly large discrepancy. "Canada-based Israeli filmmaker" might be a bit of a clue mind you.

She doesn't provide any evidence or statistics but just generally says things like "Israelis don't want war" for example. Of course it's possible the polls quoted from the other side were very limited or biased in some way.

I'm definitely on the suspicious side when it comes to that and am definitely more likely to go with lunatic state rather than frustrated peaceniks.

Will have to do some more digging into this and how much Israel shows on their media, how much they see of other media, etc.

It's definitely a glaring hmmmmm moment.

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

Re: How Israelis justify genocide to themselves | The Marc Steiner Show

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 18, 2024, 7:40 pm, in reply to "Re: How Israelis justify genocide to themselves | The Marc Steiner Show "

Lia Tarachansky is an ex-West Bank settler so she should know the on the ground situation, at one time at least.

This is her major work, about Israeli denial of 1948 and those atrocities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Side_of_the_Road

Definitely going to do some more digging.

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

Let us know what you unearth...and just one other point...

Posted by Ed <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Ed' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 18, 2024, 8:14 pm, in reply to "Re: How Israelis justify genocide to themselves | The Marc Steiner Show "

...about not knowing what is going on...as is often said, this is the first genocide being screened live, all over social media and the world.
You could hardly not know what is going on, whether you agreed with it or not ...it would take a great deal of effort not to know!

Befehl ist befehl?

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 18, 2024, 8:57 pm, in reply to "Let us know what you unearth...and just one other point..."

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