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"Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks

Posted by RaskolnikovX <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Raskolnikov' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 7, 2024, 3:15 pm

Seems like Syria is going to fall to the head choppers and the US and the media can all dance around pretending they are democracy loving rebels again.

If this is true and progresses, it's happened much faster than any of the commentators expected. It was looking fairly certain of some kind of partition but now it looks like it may be full regime change. I keep hoping they are just letting them over-extend and plan to unleash some cut-off/mop-up type of operation.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/07/syria-rebels-reach-damascus-bashar-al-assad

Trump says the US should have nothing to do with the conflict in Syria

President-elect Donald Trump said on Saturday the U.S. should not be involved in the conflict in Syria, where rebel forces are threatening the government of president Bashar al-Assad.

“Syria is a mess, but is not our friend, & THE UNITED STATES SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THIS IS NOT OUR FIGHT. LET IT PLAY OUT. DO NOT GET INVOLVED!” Trump said in a post on his social media platform Truth Social.

LOL. Ever alert to a PR opportunity he talks like he's living up to his "no war" campaign while knowing full well that the US are neck deep in the Syria operation but until he gets back in the chair he can say shit like this.

...no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party...So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

All's well. MI5 to concentrate henceforth on Failed States and leave terrorists alone. The Times.

Posted by Der <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Der' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 7, 2024, 5:42 pm, in reply to ""Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks"

Saw it in Sainsbury's.

Rushed home reassured.

Re: "Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks

Posted by marknadim <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=marknadim' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 7, 2024, 7:02 pm, in reply to ""Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks"

incredibly fast.

did Russia let it happen?

Re: "Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 7, 2024, 7:40 pm, in reply to "Re: "Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks"

did Russia let it happen?

From my readings, Russians had some inkling of what was brewing in Idlib. It was ignored by the RF general in Syria probably thinking all is good because of Astana agreement with Turkey. Also noting that apparently RF general had been given intelligence reports warning him about the build-up of head-choppers there ... sorry, the moderate rebels : )). Anyways, the current RF general was booted out and the new RF general is now in charge fwiw.

There are alarmist reports saying that RF is to abandon the port in Tartus which I find evidence-free i.e. Russians being out of Syria and abandoning their Med presence. I am inclined to think that it will become clear after the push-back from Russians, Iranians and the Iraqis within (say) 2 weeks. Not sure about Hezbollah, which, at the end of the day, is directly affected in cutting of their supply lines through Syria from Iran. Possibly.

Re: "Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks

Posted by John Monro <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=John+Monro' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 7, 2024, 7:53 pm, in reply to ""Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks"

It's hard to say this but the US and Israel are winning. Gaza is being cleared out, Lebanon is being cowed, regime change in Syria and a new anti-Iranian caliphate of chaos will be installed, but under the thumb of the US. If you're a Christian or the wrong sort of Moslem, you'll suffer severely, but the extra millions of refugees won't be a US problem, but yet another nail in the coffin for Europe, the US's ever diminishing rival.

It never pays to underestimate the bellicosity a, determination, nd psychopathy of US leadership, and their power to cause trouble.Hamas and Hezbollah haven't been defeated, but have been severely reduced, The US doesn't actually need to "win" in a conventional military sense, but they cause enough trouble, chaos, misery, poverty that any rivals are reduced and compliant, They failed in Syria a few years ago, but sanctions and determination have ultimately succeeded. Russia is now weakened to by losing its Syrian ally. The US is still trying in Georgia, and in Rumania has managed to get an election reversed. Moldova too managed to cook the electoral books by excluding Modovans living in Russia from voting. Russia has not yet won in any real terms, as Ukraine could still become a NATO member and have US missiles installed there, It may have gained a bit of security with a bigger buffer zone and a land bridge to the Crimea. but it'll have come at huge cost to its economy and people. Not enough I believe to upset Russia and cause Putin to worry about his position, but the US is going to continue ever harder as its own country is failing and flailing. US hegemony is under serious threat, but don't assume it's going to go quietly and don't assume that ultimately it might not succeed, for another few years at any rate.

The State of Israel has been a highly successful plan to continue domination of the Middle East, and it continues so to be.

Re: "Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 7, 2024, 8:47 pm, in reply to "Re: "Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks"

It's hard to say this but the US and Israel are winning.

I think it is more complicated than clear winning and losing. My perception has been that Israel is in real trouble economically, demographically .. as in 1 odd million Israelis citizens have left for greener pastures i.e. Europe, US and elsewhere and myriad of other issues, 30K of Golan Height settlers displaced and living in hotels (most reports give much higher numbers). Conscription of ultra-religious people and hostages issue. Etc.

Gaza is being cleared out, Lebanon is being cowed, regime change in Syria and a new anti-Iranian caliphate of chaos will be installed, but under the thumb of the US. If you're a Christian or the wrong sort of Moslem, you'll suffer severely, but the extra millions of refugees won't be a US problem, but yet another nail in the coffin for Europe, the US's ever diminishing rival.

Well, I haven't heard the fat lady sing just yet. For example, I'd agree with Gaza is being cleared out, Lebanon is being cowed has some merit. Meanwhile, the regime change is not quite there.

It needs to be remembered that Syrian economy has been decimated by sanctions and lack of access to their oil and wheat fields. Hence lack of funds to pay to their army. Subsequent corruption in their military, which is most likely the reason for their collapse in some areas. There is also demographics to consider regarding the areas of Syria that are Sunni. These are the areas that have been attacked/controlled previously in 2015 etc. by jihadis and the story repeats itself. Just look at maps of 2015 and the current one today.

You say:

Russia has not yet won in any real terms, as Ukraine could still become a NATO member and have US missiles installed there ..

There is absolutely zero chance of Ukraine in it's current form becoming a NATO member in my humble opinion. This is an existential issue for RF.

US hegemony is under serious threat, but don't assume it's going to go quietly

It takes time for empires to leave the scene and it is doubtful it will go quietly into the night.

The State of Israel has been a highly successful plan to continue domination of the Middle East, and it continues so to be.

I very much disagree. Israel is on the ropes. We'll see.

Re: "Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks

Posted by John Monro <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=John+Monro' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2024, 5:10 am, in reply to "Re: "Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks"

t - thanks for your comments. Certainly worth the read and taking note of.

Re Israel, Israel will only fail when the US does. As for the other matters, we'lll have to see.

When I say the US and Israel have "won", that's not for ever, nothing is, but it could be for another generation? Who knows - the US empire will ultimately fail from its own internal contradictions, as do all empires, but in the meantime the US survives by sucking the economic, political and social life blood from the rest of humanity. They can do that for some time, indeed that's what they have been doing for the last fifty years. The end result might be the collapse of the world's societies and citizenry, and the US will go down with it.

Re: "Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 7, 2024, 8:46 pm, in reply to ""Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks"

Sad to say MSC has written the Assad regime off, the Russians are following the selection and maintenance of the aim, which means the SMO first. Thoroughly depressing.

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Marandi speaks to the indian and global left

Posted by Subhi <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=gamal' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 7, 2024, 10:52 pm, in reply to ""Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks"

maybe we are at 1857 in the Arab world, that eventually became 1947 for India, things take time and Hamas and Hizbullah and Ansarallah and the Hashd al shaabi have changed the world,

defeatism is utterly contemptible,

perhaps a weekend in Yemen might put some steel in your spine, you will want to get there for Friday prayers and the mass gathering that folows, a million people gather to sing Yemeni hits like "We dont care....lets have a world war" or my personal favourite "To the Saudi King and his imbecile son" the empire is not winning it's just that its brutality and murderous and larcenous nature are now fully on display, anti colonial and anti imperial struggles are full of reverses catastrophes and require great sacrifice, Erdogan they say wants Aleppo like the Turks took Alexandretta (hatay) an Arab majority area from Syria and Turkified it, America and Turkiye are occupying about 50% of Syria
so causing trouble is not hard, they have a large well trained and equipped sepoy, many central asians and uighurs, army and Ukrainians who can do modern warfare to advise.

Marandi

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Re: Marandi speaks to the indian and global left

Posted by Der <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Der' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2024, 12:14 am, in reply to "Marandi speaks to the indian and global left"

Thanks for posting that. Damn good. Marandi is always worth a listen. Not afraid to point the finger at both Israel and Turkey. "Israel bombed the roads between Lebanon and Syria just before the recent attack by HTS, to prevent Hezbollah coming to Syria's aid".

Mark Sleboda, incidentally, is very angry with Russia, for still not pointing the finger at Turkey. He ridicules Lavrov for his speech today avoiding any criticism of Turkey.
And he has a few choice words for RT and the way they toe the line as well.

Re: Marandi speaks to the indian and global left

Posted by t <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=TomskiD' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2024, 12:27 am, in reply to "Marandi speaks to the indian and global left"

First, I haven't watched the vid, just commenting on ..well .. comments : ):

maybe we are at 1857 in the Arab world

I have no idea why that year is important. Ref would be useful. Apols, I am not a mind reader : ).

defeatism is utterly contemptible,

Absolutely

perhaps a weekend in Yemen might put some steel in your spine, you will want to get there for Friday prayers and the mass gathering that folows, a million people gather to sing Yemeni hits like "We dont care....lets have a world war" or my personal favourite "To the Saudi King and his imbecile son"

Myself, being an atheist, and .. although I do appreciate the existence of religious need, I am sceptical that this event is purely .. well, religious. It is clearly people's will.

I've met many Yemenis. In a sense they proved to me that what they have to offer is as good as it gets. Cool cats.

t

PS. I'll check out the vid ..

Re: Marandi speaks to the indian and global left

Posted by Keith-264 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Keith-264' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2024, 8:50 am, in reply to "Marandi speaks to the indian and global left"

I fear that you have been overtaken by events....

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Yep, he's still talking about the army "resisting". nm

Posted by Der <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Der' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2024, 9:06 am, in reply to "Re: Marandi speaks to the indian and global left"

nm

The Salafists will consolidate power very quickly, of that you can be sure, because ..

Posted by Shyaku <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/info/user=Shyaku' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2024, 9:14 am, in reply to ""Rebels" reach Damascus and the fraud can hardly contain itself. Also Trump talks bollocks"

.. as a US/Israel-supported authoritarian regime, they don’t have to worry about the ordinary people of Syria. They will just be like Starmer, basically: Do what they want with impunity. Its the new normal.

- Shyaku

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