Long Beach State Sports : Re: P4 Compensation

This is being fought in court right now with a QB who transferred but did not honor his $1million dollar buyout for the second year.

To grow you have to do better in all aspects than your immediate peers. I would say LB rode the location, reputation, and facilities for as long as it could pre NIL. We did not develop a larger donor base when we had some momentum in the early Dan years. Then they cut the sport specific groups, eliminated the Alumni Association, and left athletics leaderless for 18 months or so, with a retiring president who was hand picked after not really wanting the job to begin with.

The way the school has turned towards identity/socialist rhetoric on campus is also a huge reason there isn't a growth in campus pride, growing donations, etc. If you blame the system that you volunteered to be a part of, and the system reinforces those ideas, it cannibalizes itself. I was happy and proud of my time at LB. A lot of students carry a victimhood that supersedes their own desire/want to learn/excel.

So do I think we can stay at our current level? Yes, with good leadership. I think we can grow and be the best non football Mid-Major in the Big West/west coast. But a lot of hurdles.

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The P4 won’t, but I think the courts will. Remember there are more mid and lower schools than P4’s. Pooling resources to protect your interest and reputation is important. Perfectly frank, the P4 intention is to control all the money and reputation in university sports at the expense of mid and lower schools than majors. We are currently spending money to lose money.

Some changes need to happen, like players need to sign contracts.

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International soccer leagues have a transfer fee for what you describe. Unfortunately doubt the collegiate hierarchy would agree to a similar approach

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Agree. The midmajors have sat back and taken it for far too long.

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Been thinking about the economic discrepancy between the P4 and the rest of the herd. Now the P4 can poach and pay for non-P4 athletes that gained their skills and experiences at non-P4 schools with no compensation to the university. It cost the nonP4 schools money to recruit, train and play the athletes that are purchased via NIL. I suggest the P4 schools should compensate the non-P4 with twice the amount of money they via NIL to recuperate the cost they incurred.

This system now in place is a form of slavery where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. The non-P4 are the slaves to the rich P4 schools. We are working our butts off to find train and play athletes, it cost money and we should be compensated for the work we have done. I’m sure a suit to this effect would work, as long as we stay in the NCAA. It would be costly, however there are more non-P4 schools than the opposition. Pooling resources could make it work. The payoff is important to long term viability.

Bitterly should be pursuing this approach with other mid and lower universities. Starting tomorrow would be OK. David can defeat Goliath. I think if Bobby is worth the money he would be on the phone with Butterly asap. Earn it Bobby. Any thoughts?