What did Donald say?
Mass deportation of illegal immigrants... 25 million? That was his #.
Estimates are currently. That its actually 11 million.
Heres where they work. FYI-
Agriculture is not just fruit/veg. It includes meat processing.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/652960/employed-undocumented-immigrants-in-the-us-by-industry/
When a company employs illegal immigrants. They save money in numerous ways. Not just lower wages, but also employee taxes, soc security etc matching employer taxes. They dont have to buy workers comp insurance, and ither various costs.
American consumers gave benefited GREATLY over the years. Its kept food prices artificially low for decades. Housing prices too, are actually artificially lower using immigrant labor. Its been one of the many ways unions have been busted since the days if Reagan.
On the one hand. Americans, w/o realizing. Have loved this wink/nod agreement between government and industry. But it came at the expense of goid paying jobs.
I used to know butchers. They worked at the Piggly Wiggly or Safeway down the street. They were good paying jobs. And I knew Roofers, sheetrockers, framers & plummers. Good paying union jobs.
None of these americans got rich. They were middle class. And the dollars they earned. It was spent mostly at the local businesses in the towns in which they resided. Truck drivers too were mostly Teamsters. Well paid.
Mostly, all of that is now gone. I dont know a single union butcher, construction worker or truck driver since? 20 years anyway.
Initially? Almost all of those jobs went to illegal and legal immigrants. Lots & lots of small operator sub contractors. An LLC shell game that hid a corporate plan to bust unions. Keep prices low, knowing consummers would look the other way, but it also increased profits tremendously.
That horse started to leave the barn in the mid 80's. Its been fully realized since at keast the early 2000's.
How is this going to work? If 11-25 million "migrants" are deported over the next 4 years?
Who will butcher the cow you eat at McDonalds? Pick the lettuce for your Olive Garden endless salad? Housing prices are high now. Whats the price per sq foot when construction employers have to pay workers comp again?
Idk? I honestly do not now how this works.
I doubt its possible. The logistics alone, of deporting 11 million will immediately eat the $2trillion Elon is supposedly tasked to cut from the budget.
Idk? Maybe Trump hires illegals to deport illegals?
And when it starts? Whats Cargill, Tyson, Delmonte & Kraft etc- ceo's going to say about the disruption of their business model?
It was hogwash all along.
I would expect, the actual outcome to be. Migrant workers take more jobs as mass deregulation and
disbanding of inspection allow more industries to roll back wages via the wink/nid secret that props up the reds never actually trying for meaningful immigration reform.
We shall see.
Deregulation is easy. Stroke of a pen. Fire a few 100k fed "deep staters".
Gutting federal agencies is easy too. Stroke of the pen. Fire a few 100k "deep staters".
How about sundowning medicare & social security?
How many trillions of government spending from those 2 programs- flows through the economy? Keeps small businesses afloat?
Remember how that worked for the economy. When union workers were shown the door back in the 80's & 90's. Entire communities! Small business began to shutter. The ripple effects will cause so much pain across the economy. The aftermath of any one of these plans will cause fallout for decades. Put all of these plans into effect over the next 4 years?
Remember the housing crash of '07/08?
Peanuts compared to project 2025. Another housing bubble bursts- another round of banking/mortgage failures.
Lol, I'll meet ya'll under the bridge. We can pool our $5 a day working in the apple orchards. Buy tequilla and get hammered as we Share a dog, cat, duck roasting over an open fire.
"Theyre eating our pets! Campaign hogwash or prophecy?"
Its so crazy to follow through with any of this stuff. But? Who knows? How much was hogwash? How much will be attempted.
What lay ahead? Your guess is as good as mine.
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!
I for one, shut down my consumer spending a couple months back. I wonder when the rest of america stops being good little consumers.
In the past year. Consumer confidence/spending and savings had all risen to higher levels than pre-pandemic.
A lack of consumer confidence & spending causes recession faster than any other single factor.
But its all good. I believe 100% donald will indeed bring MAGA to those that matter to him.
Especially those young men & chicano that won him the election.
Ya know- fact check me on this- its true. NAFTA originated- the plan. With the Reagan conservatives. It wasnt until Reagan Democrats replaced old guard dems that it finally got enough votes to pass under Clinton.
Back then- I screamed at anybody that would listen. The very same words-
Be careful what you wish for.
Americans always get the goverment they deserve. The problem is. Education levels have dropped yearly since the 80's. The processing standards on IQ testing have dropped yearly since the 80's.
The answers that would give a person a 110 back in 1975. Those very same answers would score you a 150 today. An off the charts genius.
Fact check me please.
The point im making. America is so stupid & gullable in 2024.
Its like Cows being led up the ramp to the kill station- "hey bessie? Do you smell blood?"
Trump, 2016, "Vote for me, what do you have to lose?"
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