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Posted by Andy C <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Andy+C' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 9, 2024, 12:12 pm

Has anyone here ever researched their Family History?

I started looking at it many years ago when Dad was still around - he gave me loads of useful info.

Over the years I have done more, off an on, as it is very time consuming.

By chance stumbled on a burial record for my Great Grandmother (ever looked at Find a Grave?).

I uopdated my Family Tree in Ancestry - did the DNA thing a while ago and I get a fair few "hints" about potential and actual blood relatives.

I find the whole thing very fascinating, my Daughter has absolutley no interest so when I go it will all go in the bin, but it is a project I shall continue chipping away at.

Found a couple of skeletons that Mum knew about but was not supposed to tell anyone, but in the main my ancestors worked mainly on farms and in local quarries.

No one achieved anything of any note as far as I can see, but I like going to the places where they lived and taking a look around - mostly within about 15 miles of where I live, except for one of my Great Uncles who died on the Somme and is buried in Belgium.

Went there many years ago and it was quite moving to stand by his grave with Mum and Dad.

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Posted by Lannis <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Lannis' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 9, 2024, 12:35 pm, in reply to "Family History"

I have been researching our family history for some years now.

With modern tools like Ancestry.com, Newspapers.com, and Find-a-Grave, one no longer has to travel to far-flung court houses and city halls to find family data; most of it is on-line, and more becoming available all the time.

I have over 5,000 names in our family tree now, some going back to the 1400s.

Lots of very interesting family connections on both my side and Fay's. Hers is mostly English (Pawlett, Bennett, Wheeler, Jefferson) and Scottish (my sons are authorized to wear the Clan Robertson tartan). Mine are mostly German (Selz, Weimer, Kline, Thalheimer).

I have almost all our DNA accounted for except for my great-great-grandfather on my mother's side, who was possibly a milkman or passing fancy, and a great-great-grandfather on Fay's side, who got poor Jennie Marilla pregnant in 1859. A DNA test could show a surprise there, I suppose....

Lots of fun, and subject of conversation at family gatherings.

Lannis

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Posted by Andy C <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Andy+C' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 9, 2024, 1:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Family History"

You are right there is a lot of online data around these days.

Been a few tragedies, firstly my Great Uncle on the Somme, he was only 19.

Mums paternal Dad was killed in a steam lorry accident a few Months before my Mum was born, and most recent by Dad passed away just a couple of Months before our Daughter was born.

Had a few people contact me via Ancestry which have resulted in lengthy emails.

It is a lot of fun - still waiting to find out what hapenned to the Family fortune. Mums paternal Dad that was killed was a very wealthy man.

He had a very elaborate funeral, yet has no headstone, and Mum never found out what hapenned to all his money.

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Posted by Al Sation <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Al+Sation' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 9, 2024, 1:10 pm, in reply to "Re: Family History"

Andy,only last week me and daughter and grandson went up to the Isle of Bute where our Scots (maternal) side come from.met up with my cousin and his wife,who took us to my grandmothers grave. she died in 1937 so way before i was born,but i love all the family history stuff.

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Posted by Andy C <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Andy+C' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 10, 2024, 8:05 am, in reply to "Re: Family History"

I love wandering around the places my ancestors must have trod, kind a strange feeling it makes me feel like I am "connecting" with them in a strange way.

One very weird thing, way before I started doing any of this research there is a little village out on the Somerset Levels, that every time I drove or rode though it, I had a feeling of "belonging" there, something just felt "right" about the place.

The village is called Baltonsborough, and it turns out that is where all my ancestors came from from, strange isnt it?

Still get that feeling every time I drive / ride through it.

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Posted by jimmy <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=jimmy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 10, 2024, 9:21 am, in reply to "Re: Family History"

Andy
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Great lyrics and quite moving.

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Posted by Tonupdave <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Tonupdave' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 9, 2024, 1:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Family History"

Yes have all mine started many years ago on mother's side date back to the late fifteen hundreds in Halse Somerset. Fathers side only to the 1800 Heartfordshire .. one of my ancestors carved the pew ends in Halse church..
A lot of the first information was gathered in London looking through the files in Somerset House...when we lived up there.

Tonupdave..T.U.D.

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Posted by ChazzyB <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=ChazzyB' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 9, 2024, 3:00 pm, in reply to "Re: Family History"

Mine was partly done by an aunt of my grandfather's in the early part of the 20th century. I guess she did it the hard way. There's a relly, Cardinal Christopher Bainbridge, buried in the English Hospital in Rome. I assume his branch of the family stopped with him. He was poisoned by one of his priests.

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Posted by Nigel B <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Nigel+B' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 9, 2024, 1:42 pm, in reply to "Family History"

Not something I have done (or had that much interest in TBH), but one of my brothers worked for a local company many years ago whose MD had the same family name - not knowingly a direct relation, though.

He had done a lot of research into the origins of the family name & had got back to the 12 century. These were records in a church in the village overlooking Halifax where my youngest brother currently lives, about 6 miles from me. Seems we don't move around much ! Seems the records are mainly to do with churches & courts, where there are records of both criminals and constables.

No one left now to ask directly about either side of the family. I know my maternal grandfather served in the Royal Artillery on the Somme in WW 1 & that my paternal grandfather was a miner, so a reserved occupation in WW2 but not much more than that.

Nigel B.

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Posted by jimmy <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=jimmy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 9, 2024, 1:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Family History"

Like Nigel, I have never really had an interest in tracing any roots. My cousins from Waterlooville did have and preinternet, spent a lot of time and effort getting the 'tree' together. He brought it up to show my auld man, and my younger sister took it to work to get it photocopied......Unfortunately she left it lying on the bus seat and was never seen again. My brother and I still wind her up over it

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As I have said before on here I knew nothing about dad he died when I was four years old nothing was ever said about him as if he didn't exist through looking up the history I found out about his bravery at the Battle of Mametz Wood WW1 survived badly wounded and died when I was 3-4 years old
I now have acquired his medals and even the label tied on him from the battlefield.. also with help from his regiment exactly whare he was found on the battlefield.. unfortunately can't visit the site as its too dangerous and only found his grave Unmarked Mortlake Cemetery twenty years ago..Something for my children and grand children to carry on its all written down in box files..

Tonupdave..T.U.D.

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Got all my records stored on the Computer / Ancestry and as a "Gedcom" file which is a pretty universal file format for family tree programmes.

Also have loads of paper records.

Probably all go when I go.......

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Posted by laverdabru <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=laverdabru' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 9, 2024, 6:44 pm, in reply to "Re: Family History"

Late wife, being pretty much housebound in her last years, did a lot of this. My side were straightforward(ish), from London & mainly Forces. My uncle was involved in X-Craft mini sub operations.
Certainly a few skeletons & family myths busted. One who was Missing, believed KIA in WW1, turned up in the USA in the '30's. A 'French Count' on my Mum's side turned out to be a stunt rider in a circus, who adopted a French stage name.
As an ex postie, I found that some of the retired Army types in Victorian times became letter carriers & Coach Drivers for Royal Mail in London interesting.
On her fathers side, they were Welsh back for generations, heavily involved in Eisteddfods as harp players for generations. Found a book had been written about them. They also owned the Britannia Inn on the Anglesey bridge crossing for many years.
Her Mum claimed to be descended from a Lord. Turned out to be a housemaid who'd got knocked up by one, so true in a way. Many on that side were from game-keeping & sea-fishing families on the east coast. On our last proper holiday together we went to Great Yarmouth 'rows', the tiny terraces which they lived in.

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Posted by geoff the bonnie <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=geoff+the+bonnie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 9, 2024, 9:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Family History"

Mrs Bonnie has been doing this study for years. Found out my Gran was a naughty girl

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My Great Grandad was banished from the village where his ancestors had lived for years because he married a woman who had a "base born" child - "base born" meant that the Father was unknown.

When Great Grandad married this woman he was cast out from the family.

So Great Grandad ended up moving about 15 miles to a village on top of the Mendips, and that is where my Grandad live his entire life.

It is thanks to Dad that I know this to be fact.

It all turned full circle during my Dads life when we moved from the top of the Mendips back to within about 5 miles of where all my encestors came from.

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Sounds like you had a lot more going on in your family history than mine.

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My mother's brother was Allways uncle Bert to me but real name was Anton Locke and a well known Artist his paintings are in London galleries still today I have four of his engravings I manged to purchase in an antique shop in Salisbury all my kids are artistic as I am my grand daughter is at collage using her artistic skills for film and TV.

Tonupdave..T.U.D.

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All of my ancestors were labourers or did "low" skilled jobs - even Dad, he drove trucks most of his life, or worked in Quarries.

That is probably why academically I was never outstanding - but still managed to make the grade, and why I am a jack of all trades and master of none.

My Daughter is one of the few on "my" side of the Family to get a degree, the only other one I know of is a cousin who gained a degree back in the 80's - we dont keep in touch.

We are what we are.

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Posted by JERRY <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=JERRY' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 10, 2024, 10:11 am, in reply to "Re: Family History"

Like you Andy I wasn't very academic at school and was always at the bottom of my class at exam time but as my grandad drummed into me when you start work always do more than you are asked to do which I never forgot. Managed to climb the ladder and ran big projects and also ran three factories during my working days. Something that won't happen these day due to my lack of a degree. Such a shame as so many kids today will be side lined because of this.

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Posted by nek <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=nek' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 10, 2024, 11:30 am, in reply to "Re: Family History"

Interesting mob here; I am fascinated by my origins, 1730 is as far back as I can get without vast expense but when Bermondsey was all market gardens there is a Sara Lee married into family possibly Romany with that name, a great grandfather shipwrecked on Scilly Isles, and an Uncle on Mums side who was in the original SAS, killed in Italy 1944. Me, I am just a dull old bugger who has done nothing except live as long as I have done.

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Jerry I was hopeles at scool the first schooling I had was when I was eight years seven years old at an open air school in Isleworth as a I had TB I was then in a convalescent home then basically failed the eleven pluss ended up at the bottom of a secondary modern school One of the teachers took pity and gave me extra tutoring and swayed me to the Art side. I stayed on an extra year and took my exams passed in Art and engineering draughtsmanship. The rest hopeless. The rest is history but some of my artwork is still used today as I went from school into the Litho printing trade as a graphic artist it the end managed two companies the worked in advertising paintwork at Beechams Pharmaceuticals so yes I designed the Ribena Berry characters .. Still used today but don't get any commission

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Tonupdave..T.U.D.

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Like me Dave you should be proud of what you achieved. Beginning to think our generation might be the last of the real grafters.

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M<y origins are mostly Cornish miners who gradually migrated to Devon as the mines were failing. Fathers side were shop owners in Falmouth and the shops later became part of the co-op group

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Posted by dommie90 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=dommie90' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 10, 2024, 12:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Family History"

Being a colonial I traced my Mothers side back to 13th century in Scotland and at some time later they had a castle which was seized by the English for backing the wrong side,on my fathers side I can only go back to Hamburg in as far as 1800s ,but later on there was a German officer who was hung by the nazi's for plotting against Hitler

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Posted by spriddler <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=spriddler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 14, 2024, 10:30 am, in reply to "Re: Family History"

...a German officer who was hung by the nazi's

Ooooh, that sounds as painful as being shot in the Balkans.

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Posted by 6TDen <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=6TDen' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 10, 2024, 12:39 pm, in reply to "Re: Family History"

I remember my old boss telling me he went to a meeting and the people prior to the meeting chatting about the different degrees they had managed to achieve. One hoo-ha Henry said to him do you have any degrees Peter, to which he replied - none, but I do have fifteen people working for me that do.
Den

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Posted by Beezabryan <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Beezabryan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 10, 2024, 3:49 pm, in reply to "Re: Family History"

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Posted by Brickboy <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Brickboy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 10, 2024, 12:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Family History"

I used to think like that, Jerry, but it is still possible. My mate's younger brother started as an apprentice and is now MD of his company. Another friend taught himself computers and how to connect them (I remember him doing this in his own house and thinking how boring it was). He then went for an interview at Peugeot for an IT job with just that experience, no qualifications, and ended up running the company IT systems.

Many degrees are, sadly, worthless in the job market.

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Many people get good jobs not because of the degree they get but purely because they had the intelligence to get them and their ability to apply themselves to learn.
Den

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I agree Den but the big problem sometimes is not even getting to the interview stage without a degree. I had people forced on me at work who I was told I must use and they have a degree so must be good. I can assure you most times it was the opposite.

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I was much better academically when I went to College, mainly because of the lack of good teachers at school. College tutours were a country mile better.

Managed up with a couple of ONCs and an HNC so did not do too bad.

Started off in the Drawing Office, and found myself doing what I am doing now through good fortune, the higher ups deciding I was good at it, and when I started, it was a job that was in it's infancy.

If I had to apply for this job now it is most likley I would not get it as ideally you need a degree, what is my job I hear you ask.

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Andy my problem was trying to learn from written instruction but show me something hands on and I get it first time and never forget it. I loved science at school mainly because it was mostly hands on.

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I passed the interview for my paperound aged 13. During all the down turns in the economy and short time working, i am lucky i still do my paperound but not with my school cap on now.
When applying for electrician work, employers expect, and need to see a lot of qualifications that are up to date. I spent quite a lot of time at college and was 56 the last time i studied.
grandaughter with no qualifications, now aged 22 is manager of the local Home Bargains store in Exmouth so some jobs have no need for certificates.

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Instead of leaving school at 15 I went to technical college for two years and then got a job in the civil service earning less than £5.00 per week. My mate who left at 15 got a job in a local wood yard stacking timber at £15.00 per week!
Den

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Den I had two mates who gave up on there apprenticeships because they wanted to earn the same money as us other 17 year olds without one and could like us buy there first motor bikes. Happy Daze.

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Many MPs have a degree ..says it all..

Tonupdave..T.U.D.

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Posted by Ventus <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Ventus' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 10, 2024, 8:29 pm, in reply to "Re: Family History"

It's never too late to get a degree, Jerry, you could always try for one with the Open University, in a subject of your choosing, as they are really brilliant for anyone who feels that they missed out in their early life due to work or family commitments, (or money).
Although I have always been involved either in the engineering or electronics industries, when I was of school leaving age, I wanted to work out in the field as a geologist or archaeologist, but didn't have the qualifications necessary to go to university.
As I got near retirement age, I decided to give it a go, and enrolled with the OU to see if I still had it in me to study. It took about 8 years of part-time study, mostly in the evenings, until I received a BSc in 2010, and a BSc (Hons) the following year in Earth Science. It had nothing to do with my working environment.
So there's life in the old dogs yet!!

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That's brilliant Ventus - mainly for your commitment. I have a friend who has retired and is just starting a diploma in Archaeology at Oxford. Hats off to both of you for your personal determination

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Well done Ven nice to achieve something that makes you feel good and proud of yourself even in later life. I'm just happy to be able to still still be on a race track and still play good standard men's doubles badminton that will do me. Never wanted a degree or a certificate to prove it just loved working hard to achieve what I did.

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You don't need a degree to get into Archeology my friend who I worked with was head of the Roman Archeology department at the London Museum I even have a roman oil lamp he gave to me that was re.constructed in the workshops I also helped in making his machine ( can't remember what it was called memory's gone ) It was a defraction device that you put a small chip of pottery or what ever it was fired up between two carbon arcs and the colours produced were captured on film and from that you could find the construction of the clay and the most likely areas it came from ..Not a lot of people know that..

Tonupdave..T.U.D.

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Posted by Leon Novello <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Leon+Novello' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 11, 2024, 2:50 am, in reply to "Family History"

Hitler`s parents were cousins. After der war the family swore not to procreate, thus ending the line.

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