yes i thought someone would pick up on this for your information i was one of the first members of ukautotalk and back in the day there were some very good techs on there who were more intrested in diagnostics than computer text slander. ive had a two year gap in my membership and in response to your thread i left it because of silly child like tit for tat post like the replies on there now which have no relevants to my original question and has nothing to do with motor vehicle tech . people who want to add more ridicules comments are the ones who should not be members .THIS IS MY LAST POST ON THIS AS I DONT WANT TO BE TARNISHED WITH THE SAME BRUSH AS A VERY VERY SMALL HAND FULL OF MEMBERS