At the risk of being controversial, not all mass killings fit the definition of 'genocide' Archived Message Posted by SueC on November 21, 2019, 12:25 am, in reply to "Extinction Rebellion founder’s Holocaust remarks spark fury" I think we all know there's a 'holocaust industry' which is used to excuse any and every action by the israeli state. I think, however, that not all mass killings amount to genocide in the true meaning of that word. Belgium's record in Congo is truly appalling with terrible atrocities but the single biggest mass killer was epidemic diseases followed by famine and plunging birth rates. The scale of the suffering, the indifference and criminal negligence towards the welfare of the Congolese people is beyond belief and constitutes a crime against humanity but I'm not sure it was genocide. The US's war against its indigenous people, however, does fit the description since many public figures went on the record to declare the intent of completely wiping out native Americans. The Jewish holocaust is not unique - other attempts have been made at other times and in other places to wipe out an entire people - but it was instrumental in destroying much of European jewry and there can be no doubt that is the end the Nazis intended just as they intended to move onto Slavs. Genuine acts of genocide, therefore, are different from mass killings and the two should not be confused. Message Thread: Extinction Rebellion founder’s Holocaust remarks spark fury - johnlilburne November 20, 2019, 5:52 pm Seems reasonable enough, despite all the shrieking virtue-signalling from the Deutschers. Compared - Rhisiart Gwilym November 20, 2019, 6:45 pm Re: ..but isn't he right? (though unwise to say so?) - John Monro November 20, 2019, 6:48 pm Try Dr.Gideon Polya's estimates, John. Bound to be more reliable than any wikideceivia sewage. NOM - Rhisiart Gwilym November 20, 2019, 6:54 pm Holodomor? - Keith-264 November 20, 2019, 7:55 pm Re: Holodomor? - Thomas Newfield November 20, 2019, 9:20 pm Collectivisation = enclosure read your Tauger - Keith-264 November 21, 2019, 12:48 am Re: Collectivisation = enclosure read your Tauger - Thomas Newfield November 21, 2019, 3:20 pm Re: Collectivisation = enclosure read your Tauger - Keith-264 November 21, 2019, 4:22 pm Re: ..but isn't he right? (though unwise to say so?) - brooks November 20, 2019, 10:48 pm Re: ..but isn't he right? (though unwise to say so?) - dereklane November 21, 2019, 8:17 pm Belich - Keith-264 November 21, 2019, 8:56 pm At the risk of being controversial, not all mass killings fit the definition of 'genocide' - SueC November 21, 2019, 12:25 am Utilitarianism - Keith-264 November 21, 2019, 12:55 am Re: Extinction Rebellion founder’s Holocaust remarks spark fury - AlanG November 21, 2019, 10:43 am Or the English empire? NOM - Rhisiart Gwilym November 21, 2019, 10:48 am Leopold got Congo as a fiefdom and lost it in 1908 - Keith-264 November 21, 2019, 4:28 pm   Searching