Re: Dmitry Orlov's vignettes from Russia, where he now lives with his Russian wife and children, make it Archived Message
Posted by Ian M on December 7, 2019, 3:09 pm, in reply to "Dmitry Orlov's vignettes from Russia, where he now lives with his Russian wife and children, make it"
Hi Rhis, thanks for that I'm afraid I don't trust Orlov's analysis on these issues ever since his meltdown after being challenged by women in an audience Q&A at the 'Age Of Limits' conference back in 2013. Here's a summary & critique of his snarky comments and choice to look only at male-dominated societies in his 'communities that abide' series: http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/katherine-acosta/51641/on-gender-collapse-communities-we-can-all-abide-part-i http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/katherine-acosta/51695/on-gender-collapse-communities-we-can-all-abide-part-ii Personally I don't think the 'emasculation' (as you put it) of men has been down to feminism per se but rather because of the creeping domination of the corporate culture and, as Bly points out, the fact that since the industrial revolution boys no longer see their fathers working or join in with that work from a young age. Was that not the case for you? I still think the feminists are right about Patriarchy and the 'toxic masculinity' which is rewarded by, and helps to spread the exploitative civilisational system (just finished reading the Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver which explicitly draws an analogy between the colonisation of the Congo with the subjugation of women, for example). But there has to be an authentic, positive masculinity in there for us men too, which feminism by itself is not going to be able to provide. Good medicine as far as it goes, but past a certain point it's for women only and we need our own particular remedy for the modern malaise. cheers, I
|
Message Thread:
- Robert Bly on manhood - Ian M December 5, 2019, 9:38 pm
- Dmitry Orlov's vignettes from Russia, where he now lives with his Russian wife and children, make it - Old (Most) Contemptible Twat December 6, 2019, 9:15 am
- Re: Dmitry Orlov's vignettes from Russia, where he now lives with his Russian wife and children, make it - Ian M December 7, 2019, 3:09 pm
- Slagging those that cannot reply. - Thomas Newfield December 8, 2019, 7:37 pm
|
|