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Posted by Andy C <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Andy+C' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2024, 9:08 am

Sat here watching the TV weather forecast, and looking back I wonder how we ever used to survive.

"Aamber" warnings for snow and ice, same for wind and rain, reporters telling people not to drive unless we have to, and on it goes.

FFS have things really got that bad that everything comes with a "warning" along with advice not to do this or that because of the weather?

Nanny state, maybe I had better not go outside today incase I get hit by a falling leaf, or I step in a puddle, or god forbid a flake of snow falls.

Bit windy here this morning, along with a bit of rain, no big deal.

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Posted by Will <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Will' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2024, 9:19 am, in reply to "Fed up"

There are so many warnings because there are so many stupid people.
They've grown up not having to take responsibility for anything = everything is always someone else's job and/or fault.
They can't assess even simple risks for themselves.

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Posted by Andy C <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Andy+C' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2024, 9:39 am, in reply to "Re: Fed up"

Not just me being a moaning old codger then

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Posted by 6TDen <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=6TDen' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2024, 9:51 am, in reply to "Re: Fed up"

We're British what else would we have to talk about without the weather? Ah, we could talk about old motorbikes I suppose.
Den

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Posted by laverdabru <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=laverdabru' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2024, 10:07 am, in reply to "Re: Fed up"

I've always thought that since the 'Great Storm' of 1987 the forecasters have tended to err on the negative side - to quote from Wiki, which seems to bear this out;
In reaction to the controversy, the term "the Michael Fish effect" has been coined, whereby British weather forecasters are now inclined to predict "a worst-case scenario in order to avoid being caught out"

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At last someone to blame.

Michael Fish

Think you are probably right tho Bru, my reaction to it at the time was simply that they had got the forecast wrong.

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Who on earth wants to talk about oil oily, rattly motorcycles Den

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Just a thought Andy, though you could be right.
Den

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Posted by MadMike <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=MadMike' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2024, 10:06 am, in reply to "Fed up"

Perhaps we should consider who has made the country so risk averse. It seems to me that it was our generation that caused it. We have mollycoddled our children due to the proliferation of multiple car ownership in households of all classes. It was our generation that introduced the levels of Health and Safety legislation etc. The generation before ours fought in world wars and the masses lived if housing conditions that we would no longer accept.
The nation got wealthier, motor car ownership grew, at the expense of motorcycles incidentally. Mothers decided that their offspring should not be expected to walk to school and thus was created the school run, which also was a means of showing growing wealth...oh look you have a Ford Cortina but I have got an Audi, so that makes me superior to you.

So am I right? I do not honestly know but the nation has become softer, lazier and has a far too high sense of entitlement.

Other opinions may be available but this one is always correct.

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It is probably unfair to lay the "blame" with our generation, but the called "ruloing elite" and or organisations / individuals that did not like the way the country is / was.

Of course the internet also a great enabler for anyone with different views to express an opinion / change people viewpoints.

No doubt that increasing wealth has made life easier for many, by the same token the great divide between haves and have nots have made it worse for them.

We could probably discuss this for ages - not much else to do on a day like today, but no doubt over the generations things have changed a lot.

I dont understand the current generation, it seems so easy to say something un offensive, but it is taken as a personal attack because it is not PC or in line with current "accepted" thinking.

Thinking back to when I was part of the younger generation, Dad would sometimes say stuff that anoyed me, but we would talk about it and agree to disagree, these days it seems that saying something that is not "correct" is taken way too personally.

Times change, guess it is me that has not....

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Posted by jimmy <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=jimmy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2024, 11:24 am, in reply to "Re: Fed up"

I agree with Mike. In general, we all want our children to have a better life than we had, and give them things that we never had. They than did the same with their kids and so on.
With regards to schools closing, park runs cancelled etc. Unfortunately we live in litigious society with Law Firms vying for your business in a "no win no fee", "where theres blame theres a claim" environment so all public bodies have to be risk averse or they risk being sued for 'allowing' someone to run in such conditions, and there is probably exemption clauses in their Public Liability Insurances forcing these decisions.

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Posted by JERRY <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=JERRY' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2024, 10:17 am, in reply to "Fed up"

Agree totally with you Andy. Listened to the news this morning and all they went on about was severe weather for parts of the UK. I remember the winter of 1963 riding my Ariel Arrow 15 miles to work and the rest of my biking workmate just got on with it no problem. Our only real problem was who could get to the two bar electric fire to warm our fingers up first so we could start work and as we were making small electronic equipment more the model boat and aircraft hobby customers we needed working pinkies. Happy Daze.

The oldest rocker in town!

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Back in the late 60's where I lived it was prone to snow.

I can remember on at least 2 occassions we had 6 foot drifts, and we and our neighbours had to literally dig ourselves out of the house, and then down to the road (about 1/4 of a mile) to the nearest road so that we could (shock horror) drive our cars.

There was no big deal made of it by the weather forecasters, or us folk, we just did what we needed to do to be able to get to our cars so we could drive to the village / town to get stuff from the shops or even go to work, most things carried on more or less as normal.

Happy Daze indeed.

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Posted by Hants Ian <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Hants+Ian' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2024, 10:41 am, in reply to "Re: Fed up"

My daughter in Denver very often gets something like 6 feet of snow overnight. And has to dig her way out of the house
She says we just live with it and get on with life
We used to be like that here
Not any more

The light at the end of the tunnel maybe an oncoming train

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Posted by Tonupdave <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Tonupdave' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2024, 11:11 am, in reply to "Re: Fed up"

You do have to remember it's our generations children and there's that we are talking about

Tonupdave..T.U.D.

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Does that make any difference Dave?

It looks like they have a different set of values than we had, or still have.

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Well it does make you wonder when you have children arriving at school who can't hold a pen or pencil and can't go to the toilet as they don't know how .. but they can get their tablet out and play games..

Tonupdave..T.U.D.

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Posted by Brickboy <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Brickboy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2024, 12:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Fed up"

Agreed - I'm afraid that is true and although a very small number of children it is actually increasing. The last government shut the SureStart programme which, whatever you might feel about the parents involved, went a long way to dealing with these sorts of problems which have a very negative impact on the children concerned.

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I have heard those kinds of reports - hard to believe isnt it.

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I was brought up with virtually no schooling as spent my early life in convalescent homes and later special schools just after the war and just Mum to keep me in check..I'm proud of my kids and grand kids and they have followed in my footsteps
Also Maz has had a great influence on us all..
At this time of my life it's me that asks questions

Tonupdave..T.U.D.

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Posted by spriddler <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=spriddler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2024, 2:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Fed up"

....children arriving at school who can't hold a pen or pencil
I anticipate that within a generation or two pens and pencils will become museum exhibits the same as slate tablets and abacuses.

Weather ......
I've just heard on the R4 weather forecast that the Meteorological Office has designated storm Bert as a 'Multiple Hazard Weather Event'.
I despair. It seems de rigueur nowadays that a whole range of commonplace events have to be named.

'There is a tide in the affairs of men
Which taken at at the flood.....'

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Certainly blowing down here SouthEast Devon temp is 14.7c my sixty foot Eucalyptus tree a bit worrying still raining the rain gauge has been around twice since yesterday some of that was melting snow.. so a bit noisy outside.. and lights on indoors..

Tonupdave..T.U.D.

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Yes that is something that irritates me to - commonplace events having to be named.

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Posted by Lannis <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Lannis' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2024, 6:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Fed up"

Here, it's the ....

BOMB CYCLONE! THE BOMB CYCLONE!

AHHH WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!

Snow clouds now all have names, like hurricanes.

Gotta keep people stirred up about Climate Change, which has government subsidy gravy trains which still have a ways to go in Europe. All that nonsense is dead here now, so hopefully the green hysteria will fade out gradually.

Lannis

I don't take health advice from people who think the world is overpopulated.

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Even I'm outraged and you know what a leftie liberal I'm supposed to be!!

Multiple parkruns near me cancelled because of the forecast, all National Trust properties ban parkrun on their land if 45mph gusts are forecast and one cancelled purely because, well... I just don't know.

So, the one I went to was mildly damp, very slightly breezy and of course just fine for everyone. The marshalls wrapped up, the runners wore t shirts and shorts and nobody died.

The other day I ran through mud and water in the snow. Thursday night in the dark my running club ran miles through very frosty fields and rocky paths way out in the sticks... in shorts and t shirt. No-one died. But parkruns can't possibly go ahead in daylight and on safe, secure surfaces. I suppose it might be difficult to expect volunteer marshalls to turn up in the rain but I wouldn't have thought it impossible. I'm surprised you're even allowed to run at parkrun these days without a crash helmet! I feel like I live in a parallel universe.

It's wet, it's slightly chilly in the wind. Oh dear. How sad. Never mind!

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Posted by geoff the bonnie <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=geoff+the+bonnie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2024, 9:52 pm, in reply to "Re: Fed up"

My Primary school i went to in the 1950s had the boys urinals outside behind a wall with no roof covering so it was rain rinsed. There was a small covered area for the shitters. Built in 1860 and still as it was built. Funny looking back on that as a memory. I wonder if any uncovered piss houses are left now with just the sun for lighting. Single glazing, wooden floor and a big cast iron radiator for heat from a coal fired boiler. Just 7 classrooms with 42 pupils in each

Correction!

I'm going to have to take back all my anger - the storm was 12hrs late... trees down in the city, debris everywhere and rain, rain and more rain: it's a day to stay inside!

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