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New water charges coming

Posted by geoff the bonnie <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=geoff+the+bonnie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 11:10 am

Put an open jar in the toilet cistern and save half a litre per flush. On the bill and with sewage charge, that will be equivalent to 1.5 litres of water charge.
I am tempted to put in a water tank outside collecting gutter water and run a pipe to the cistern

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Posted by Nigel B <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Nigel+B' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 11:32 am, in reply to "New water charges coming"

A lot of effort for not a lot of return.

Just checked and Yorkshire Water volumetric charge is currently £0.764 per cubic metre. That is £0.000764 per litre.

No excuse to waste it, but the "product" isn't actually that expensive. It is the standing charges that make up the bulk of the bill and a jam jar in the cistern won't affect those.

Nigel B.

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Posted by spriddler <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=spriddler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 11:39 am, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

Daft innit when UNESCO can supply a whole village for £2 a month.

'There is a tide in the affairs of men
Which taken at at the flood.....'

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I pay about 10 pounds a week now which is very good. When we installed jars into a University toilet system of hundreds of cisterns, it must have saved quite a bit.
I have used jars in both my cisterns and it may have saved just a few pounds but that money and some water, was saved.
We are economical with water and no bath in the house now. Gardens watered with catch water from the gutters.

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Posted by Lannis <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Lannis' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 12:15 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

Our water comes from our own well.

About $5 a month on the electric bill to pump it into the house ...

Lannis

I don't take health advice from people who think the world is overpopulated.

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Posted by shiner <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=shiner' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 7:41 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

over here Lannis well water belongs to the water companies if they send a bill & your reason for not paying it was you have your own well water as it was on the water table they are still entitled to charge you as they still own that wter

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Posted by Lannis <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Lannis' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 8:57 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

Of course, we're out in a rural area so there's no "water company" anywhere about to bill us for anything.

But when towns spread out into the nearby countryside, and they run a waterline down your road, they can charge you a monthly amount as a connection fee even if you stay on your well and don't connect to it. I'd move before I'd pay something like that.....!

Lannis

I don't take health advice from people who think the world is overpopulated.

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Posted by nek <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=nek' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 20, 2024, 9:03 am, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

where is over here?

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Posted by Will <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Will' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 12:00 pm, in reply to "New water charges coming"

Back in the day a brick in the cistern was recommended to increase flushes per gallon. I tried the same idea in my petrol tank but didn't improve miles per gallon

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Posted by Andy C <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Andy+C' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 12:23 pm, in reply to "New water charges coming"

We have an old antique wash jug and bowl in the bathroom, the jug always gets filled up from the hot tap while the hot water comes through, and we chuck that into the cistern after a flush.

At least the water does not get wasted, cumulatively it save a bit.

Garden is only watered with rain water from the 5 water butts we have dotted about, never use it to wash the cars as it promotes algae growth on the rubber seals around the windows, mains water does not do that due to the chemicals in the mains water.

Every little helps as they say.

Who needs a signature anyway......

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Posted by nek <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=nek' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 12:46 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

Cannot beat a Borehole inthe back yard.

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Luxury !

Who needs a signature anyway......

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I wish i had a well, then i would wish to be a millionaire Rodney and no need to save water anymore

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Posted by nek <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=nek' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 2:00 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

When I moved to Wessex nearly 40 yrs ago I lived in a tied cottage with a bore hole 90ft deep which supplied the whole estate,the taste of that water was a revalation, and combined with milk straight from the dairy made outstandin cup of tea. When I bought my present cottage it was because as well as land I have my own water and sewage system. Meanwhile Thames water are constantly discharging pure shit into rivers like the Kennet.

I am very fortuneate that apart from certain basics I can, and have done, fed myself from my own land, I keep chickens, can shoot rabbit, pheasant, duck, deer if I feel the need, thats why the knuts in charge want to exteminate the likes of me.
Am I sounding like Lannis?

nothing like the feeling of watering my spuds when a hosepie ban is on. Pure spring water out my own source. Bollox to the system

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It's a disgrace adding something like £80 to everyone's water bill - think that is what they said on the news, when they are discharging crap, not fixing leaks, and paying lottery numbers salaries to their Execs.

So much for OFWAT or whatever the regulatory body is called - probably all have their metaphorical snouts in the trough.

Who needs a signature anyway......

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Posted by laverdabru <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=laverdabru' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 3:33 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

Well, they have to pay dividends to the shareholders, as well as bonus's to the execs. Interesting article on the privatisation of water back in 1989 on Wiki.

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Nice to know our 80 odd quid will be well spent

Who needs a signature anyway......

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Posted by Greeves Rider <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Greeves+Rider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 4:41 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

Was obvious that all those fines imposed by government would be passed onto customers

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Posted by 6TDen <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=6TDen' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 5:42 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

I really don't know what they think their doing with all these fines. If they made the bosses responsible fine but fining the Companies won't help.
Den

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Shareholders and investors should be paying the fine by not getting any or at least very reduced dividends or minimal return on investment.

But we know it is always the "customer" that pays.

Who needs a signature anyway......

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Posted by Leon Novello <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Leon+Novello' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 9:54 pm, in reply to "New water charges coming"

Drinking water from underground wells contaminated by human waste caused the Great Plague of 1665.

Leon Novello

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Posted by Lannis <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Lannis' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 10:22 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

Yes, our modern deep wells, building codes, and sanitation practices look very much like those of 17th century London, so that's definitely something to be worried about....

NOT!

Lannis

I don't take health advice from people who think the world is overpopulated.

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Posted by MadMike <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=MadMike' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 19, 2024, 10:28 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

Other opinions may be available but this one is always correct.

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My town had quite a lot of wells sited in terraced house gardens. These were tiny 2 bedroom houses from about 1820 i would guess and there was 1 well used by 10 houses. People all used to share that water before mains water came. George St , Clarence road, Meeting street area. I doubt many would drink that now. Last working one i saw was at Crabbes farm and needed a large electric pump to get the water up. Now a very large housing estate

To reduce water usage....

P'raps we should use a bucket and tip it into the river ourselves.

'There is a tide in the affairs of men
Which taken at at the flood.....'

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Now yer shittin me, as some Americans might reply

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Posted by Will <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Will' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 20, 2024, 10:20 am, in reply to "To reduce water usage...."

Sound thinking Sprid, but please avoid single use plastic buckets

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Posted by A65Bill <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=A65Bill' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 20, 2024, 3:16 pm, in reply to "New water charges coming"

if the cistern capacity is reduced & it takes 2 flushes to clear the crap...
These houses were built in 1948 with a "well" in the back garden supplied by the gutters on the main roof & feeding a hand pump in the kitchen.
The pumps are all gone but the well is still there.
Front gutters just run into a soakaway uner the front garden.

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At the boys vehicle repair garage, there is no water supply at all. I fitted 2 of the very large water containers that have a cage around them then ran all the gutter water in and then an overflow back out. He has never run out of water due to the very large corrugated roof. No water rates or sewage at all

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Posted by MadMike <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=MadMike' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 20, 2024, 11:04 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

How does he do that then Geoff. There must be a drain available for rainwater, even though you choose not to use it by capturing rainwater. Howeverwhay happens when he washes vehicles? How does he flush the toilet without a foul drain? It is possible to avoid charges for water drainage but in order to do so you have to capture every drop of rain that falls, not just that which falls on the roof. To do so means tanking the whole set of premises, including non roofed areas and then recirculating it, and possibly through a filtration plant. Even then the foul drain for toilets and washing processes will still incur a charge.

Other opinions may be available but this one is always correct.

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Mike, the rainwater is discharged int the pavement area. Vehicle washing water is just splashed around outside in the road. There is no toilet as he goes in the next garage. These large lock up units have a strange history being over 100 years old coach houses and lorry parking. The gas Company say there is no gas on the property yet there is a large gas main and tap which is live. No water bill has ever been raised as there is no water main. Originally, the rainwater would have been in a soakaway in the field behind the unit but when a new road was built. All rainwater now falls on the pavement from the gutter on all 20 buildings, he uses bottled water to drink.
There are no actual drains on the property, just the new road drain system built in 1980s over his soakaway. Maybe this roadway should have kept his soakaway clear but planning was a bit lax back then. As soon as the new lorry road was built, that year, lorries stopped operating at the docks so it was never used for its intended purpose. There are now 3 roads running parallel towards the docks.
Strictly speaking, he should pay for discharging water onto the pavement now which would be the sewer charges but the water company just leaves it alone with it having no water main and history of soakaway which was destroyed during road building.
Some lovely old roof timbers in that building with its large single span curved corrugated tin roof.
No brick piers anywhere in the building, just a massive open space

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Posted by G3lcs <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=G3lcs' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2024, 10:22 am, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

For washing cars and watering the garden I have 6 rainwater butts, it’s so much easier filling a watering can from a butt then messing about with hoses.

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Posted by MadMike <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=MadMike' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2024, 11:00 am, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

Really? I just take our cars to the nice Polish guys in the next village and they do a full interior and exterior clean. Great value for a few shillings.

Other opinions may be available but this one is always correct.

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Posted by 6TDen <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=6TDen' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2024, 11:45 am, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

A few shillings - I don't thinks so.
Den

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Posted by JERRY <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=JERRY' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2024, 11:54 am, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

Full wash and valet in my area £12.

The oldest rocker in town!

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Posted by 6TDen <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=6TDen' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2024, 1:18 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

Sounds reasonable, but of course to a man of Mike's stature that would be shillings.
Den

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I really enjoy cleaning my own car as i rarely employ anyone to do easy work i can do. We do have some great valeters locally who will detail a car to perfection. On Saturdays, the boys garage is hired by an individual who cleans and details mostly Porsche and Ferrari cars. Not employed by the boy as its his own business and he needs to be under cover. Often, he has to remove any blemishes in the paint on some new cars hence the specialised LED lighting system companies always use to inspect paint. A large group of hexagons covering the entire area above the car. Very thin stripes so if the stripes have a reflection showing a minor flaw he can polish it out

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Posted by Tonupdave <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=Tonupdave' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2024, 2:02 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

Alway wash and clean my cars not hard is it ad use a pressure washer but now our vehicles are garaged anyway so I polish as well ....
Loads of people in our area advertising fitting of dash cams £100 a go??? I did mine in ten minutes

Tonupdave..T.U.D.

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Posted by MadMike <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=MadMike' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2024, 2:43 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

Here too. But it is only 240 shillings. Well,worth the cost IMHO.

Other opinions may be available but this one is always correct.

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Posted by nek <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/classicbikemart/info/user=nek' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 21, 2024, 3:27 pm, in reply to "Re: New water charges coming"

I don't know how Geoffs son pulls that off.
When I had my shop in London back in london had no water supply,not lavatory, but I had let the flat above,so paid water rates for that.Water authority tried to claim water rates from me,at a commercial rate of course. I showed the man around the premises to prove and he went away but they came back with a reduced bill for rainwater run off with the argument
that rain falls on my roof and goes into their drains. The counter argument that I had already paid that via the flat above they ignored. I gave up arguing and closed the business,which was on the cards anyway. Its just another tax, they would tax us for air if they could. Pluck 'em.

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