Before this subject gets into politics, can members please supply some factual evidence that can be taken on board before going overboard.

Would members kindly report on how many snapper they would estimate they caught on rod and line, also kontikis, powered, or wind assisted, if they use them.

Would someone from the Pania club, please report how many Snapper were actually brought to the scales on club competitions during this past season.

Being retired I fish quite regularly, I always use two rods with near sixty years experience I know how to fish well. I hate to confess but there are times I also use an electric torpedo carrying a full compliment of twenty-five hooks. Yes, I am one of those anglers who are regularly condemned as being responsible for decimating the Hawke's Bay snapper stock. In the last year I have caught no snapper on rod and line, and no snapper on the torpedo. Tatal snapper catch ... Nil.

Wayne, most of us who fish from the beach, when we want a snapper for dinner, we already have to buy it. $48.00 a kilo in Pak and Save this morning.

The article states that in the area where limits are suggested for change, snapper are at a very low number, well here in the Bay as far as I am concerned, they are bloody non existent.

Am I alone in being continually frustrated at watching Sinclair, Thomas and co, continually showing boat angling in the Manikau, or wherever, giving the public the general impression snapper are being slaughtered on rod and line, all around New Zealand? They are not. In fact for the majority of the coastline south of the Bay of Plenty they [snapper] are bloody difficult to locate, and only form a tiny percentage of our bag. Just look at the charts put out by Naki, those contain the figures you should be looking at.

I will now sit back and wait for the flack, so what's new, it's about time somebody actually told it EXACTLY LIKE IT IS.