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bail arm keeps flipping back while casting

Posted by fin-nor <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=fin-nor' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/9/2013, 9:19 pm

this happens when i am using my shimano aerlex 8000 and has caused the shock leader to bust off and has done it on both the 12 foot abu and the 14 foot fin, i double check everything before casting but only seems to do it if i get a good load up on the rod. I like the reel but I am trying to find a solution to prevent the tripping of the bail arm during a cast so I don't lose my terminal tackle, thank god the penn 850 does not do it which has become my go to reel lately. Would removing the bail arm wire so I just have the line roller only help this issue (I know it may potentially void the warranty)

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Posted by Chad <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Chad' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/9/2013, 9:43 pm, in reply to "bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "

It is important to ensure the bail arm is locked in with the roller right back around by the rod. I also have one and have no issues. If the bail arm is flipped over in any position you will get this trouble. Failing that, take it back.

Wairoa
Hawkesbay

Take Nothing For Granted

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Posted by GrantBOP <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GrantBOP' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/9/2013, 9:43 pm, in reply to "bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "

Seen on a video where guys were using a rubber band round the bail arm then pulling it round the back of the rod and looping it over the handle while they where casting.

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Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/9/2013, 10:06 pm, in reply to "Re: bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "

Get another Spinfisher with bail lock.

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

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Posted by Phill <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Phill' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 25/9/2013, 10:33 pm, in reply to "Re: bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "
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Does the Aerlex automatically flip over when you crank the handle , if so some times it's the positioning of the handle and bail arm when casting . If the bail arm return spring is little weak the inertia of the handle when casting can knock the bail arm over causing your bust off .
Take Chads advise and take it back to the shop and have them look at it . Or if it's out of warranty send down to me and I will have a look at it for you .

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Posted by fin-nor <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=fin-nor' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 26/9/2013, 12:05 am, in reply to "Re: bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "

Hi Phil
Yes it is still under its 10 year warranty as it was purchased at the same time I got the fin-nor surf rod from fish city in hamilton. The bail arm does flip over when you crank the handle but I always avoid cranking the handle on the reel to flip it back over and one thing I have noticed is the handle will sometimes move if the knob is not at the bottom with the line roller at the six o'clock position. I may just whip it back to fish city and have them take a look at it they may even say I might have lubed it a bit too much (one drop of oil after every second outing as per recommendation)

Now Gary don't tempt me in getting another penn I love my 850SSm it is reliable, strong, robust and smoother than a babies hind end followed by a decent sized knob on the handle but I must keep my tackle aquisition syndrome under control for the time being by order of the war council

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Posted by SNAPPA NAPIER <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=SNAPPA+NAPIER' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 26/9/2013, 7:44 pm, in reply to "bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "

Had that problem the first 90 comp i fish using sponsored okuma axons. Donated several sinkers and rigs due to defective bail arm flickn over. Bit of a pissoff when you go that far afield. Take it in to your local tackle store. Now one reel i sell which you would never have an issue with the bail arm snappn over is a Diawa cross cast . Longcast spool, and it doesn't weigh a tonne like the penn tanks!

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Posted by fin-nor <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=fin-nor' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 26/9/2013, 8:14 pm, in reply to "Re: bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "

I was originally considering a daiwa cross cast but was talked into getting the shimano then when I was going actually buy a cross cast I saw a brand new penn 850 for $90 on TM so grabbed it and I do not regret buying the penn at all as I am not biased on how heavy a reel is and if i were to buy a third reel it would be another penn reel as they are the easiest I have come across for self servicing. will be giving the shimano another run tomorrow at whiritoa as I am taking two rods to see if it does it again and if it does it will get dropped off to fish city on saturday to get it sorted out.

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Posted by Phill <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Phill' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 26/9/2013, 10:32 pm, in reply to "Re: bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "
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Just received the new crosscast today very nice and super well priced .

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Posted by fin-nor <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=fin-nor' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 26/9/2013, 10:49 pm, in reply to "Re: bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "

Just seen the price tag on the site Phill yes they are a nice price.

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Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 26/9/2013, 11:37 pm, in reply to "Re: bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "

Just to throw another reel in the ring, I use Pflueger Salt 80 reels these days. Never had a problem with them, 20kgs drag, smooth operation with a good handle. Plenty of capacity and Bail doesnt flick over either.

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

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Posted by Rex HB <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Rex+HB' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 27/9/2013, 7:15 pm, in reply to "Re: bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "

How do the crosscasts compare to the windcast? I've found my windcast a really good reel but they are pricey?

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Posted by fin-nor <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=fin-nor' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 27/9/2013, 9:04 pm, in reply to "Re: bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "

went to whiritoa today gave the shimano a few good hard casts and never did it, but what i had also done was repositioned the handle so the knob is always at the bottom when the line roller is at the six o'clock position did not get a single flip back with the bail arm. result of todays trip caught and released one 27cm snapper and it went dead after that

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Posted by AndyG <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=AndyG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 27/9/2013, 11:17 pm, in reply to "Re: bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "

I have a crosscast and like it. I think it has a slower retrieve rate than the windcast, but overall it's a good reel for the money

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Posted by shano1 <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=shano1' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 29/9/2013, 4:04 pm, in reply to "Re: bail arm keeps flipping back while casting "

I have the same reel mate its a matter of making sure the bail arm locks in before casting. make sure the bail arm roller is on the right side of rod when looking down at it. It took a few donations to the water before I got the hang of it. Great reel though.

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