Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others Archived Message Posted by johnlilburne on December 2, 2019, 9:12 pm, in reply to "Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others" I think that's right. 'Islamism' (like Nazism), far from being a return to 'origins', is a product of modernity, especially in its totalitarian utopian aspects. Whereas the neocons might see the 'end of history' in the triumph of liberal democracy, Islamists see it in the triumph of the universal Caliphate. So, it is very much a political project in contrast to Islam as a religion, where the individual's relationship with Allah is of paramount importance. There may be some parallels here with the anti-Zionist attitude of many Orthodox Jews towards the political project of Zionism, which they see as the antithesis of Judaism. Message Thread: | This response ↓ No decency, no respect, no shame - johnlilburne December 2, 2019, 10:57 am Copied the quotation into several Heil stories....nm - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 11:34 am Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others - SueC December 2, 2019, 11:47 am You can't predict his dad's views....nm - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 11:49 am Liberal racism - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 12:12 pm You're describing one very small, deliberately-diseased branch of Islam, Sue. Aren't you? NOM - Rhisiart Gwilym December 2, 2019, 12:41 pm Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others - AlanG December 2, 2019, 12:47 pm Why guess, why not just ask? Unless you are insinuating racism out of cowardice. - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 7:33 pm Re: Why guess, why not just ask? Unless you are insinuating racism out of cowardice. - AlanG December 3, 2019, 12:12 pm Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others - brooks December 2, 2019, 12:54 pm Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others - AlanG December 2, 2019, 1:13 pm Your social perception is acute Kommissar! - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 7:42 pm Re: Your social perception is acute Kommissar! - AlanG December 3, 2019, 12:02 pm Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 7:38 pm Yes, they are radicalised in madrassas like Cranwell, Sandhurst - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 8:48 pm Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others - brooks December 3, 2019, 9:51 am I'm not a "we" - Keith-264 December 3, 2019, 10:40 am Re: I'm not a "we" - brooks December 3, 2019, 12:23 pm Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others - mack December 2, 2019, 8:04 pm Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 8:17 pm Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others - mack December 2, 2019, 8:28 pm Fairy Nuff - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 8:36 pm Re: Fairy Nuff - Gerard December 4, 2019, 1:52 pm Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others - johnlilburne December 2, 2019, 1:13 pm A lot of disgusting slurs on a obvious rational viewpoint from heroes of upholstery hereabouts. nm - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 1:24 pm No...that was the work of the British state... - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 2:46 pm Re: No...that was the work of the British state... - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 7:43 pm Re: No...that was the work of the British state... - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 7:58 pm Re: No...that was the work of the British state... - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 8:08 pm Re: No...that was the work of the British state... - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 8:15 pm Re: No...that was the work of the British state... - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 8:25 pm Re: No...that was the work of the British state... - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 9:04 pm Good one! - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 9:21 pm Re: Good one! - Ken Waldron December 2, 2019, 9:54 pm Re: Good one! - Thomas Newfield December 3, 2019, 7:25 am Re: Good one! - Thomas Newfield December 3, 2019, 7:38 am Re: No...that was the work of the British state... - mack December 2, 2019, 8:16 pm No, parents and friends nurture children. You remain a moron. nm. - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 8:26 pm Stop using "moron" as an insult - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 8:41 pm How about "pseud"? - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 8:51 pm My middle name? Capital, capital....nm - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 8:59 pm Guilt by association? Heinrich Himmler said something Simmler. - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 8:52 pm No, it's just that I'm not a Thatcherite, unlike you. - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 8:58 pm Society is all there is working-class society, that is....nm - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 9:06 pm BTW you've got some brass neck disparaging one with 100 times your wit, nous and heart, that you and - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 9:07 pm He went of his own accord - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 9:09 pm You drove him off with your hollow, tendentious drumbeat. NOM. - Thomas Newfield December 3, 2019, 7:36 am Am I that good?....nm - Keith-264 December 3, 2019, 10:45 am Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others - Poster123 December 2, 2019, 6:14 pm That's a slur. Dan, where are you? - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 7:32 pm Re: That's a slur. Dan, where are you? - Poster123 December 2, 2019, 8:16 pm Sick of your (pl.) dishonesty. Or is is myopia? Or lack of intelligence? - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 8:34 pm Re: Sick of your (pl.) dishonesty. Or is is myopia? Or lack of intelligence? - Poster123 December 2, 2019, 8:40 pm Nothing of the sort and that you maintain this track only proves my point. I'm saying you are a raci - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 8:53 pm Re: Nothing of the sort and that you maintain this track only proves my point. I'm saying you are a raci - Poster123 December 2, 2019, 10:24 pm Re: Nothing of the sort and that you maintain this track only proves my point. I'm saying you are a raci - Thomas Newfield December 3, 2019, 1:40 pm Re: Nothing of the sort and that you maintain this track only proves my point. I'm saying you are a raci - Poster123 December 3, 2019, 2:08 pm Re: Nothing of the sort and that you maintain this track only proves my point. I'm saying you are a raci - Thomas Newfield December 3, 2019, 7:38 pm Re: Nothing of the sort and that you maintain this track only proves my point. I'm saying you are a raci - Poster123 December 3, 2019, 8:18 pm "that I can understand" LOL! - Thomas Newfield December 4, 2019, 6:12 am Re: "that I can understand" LOL! - Poster123 December 4, 2019, 6:46 am Re: Nothing of the sort and that you maintain this track only proves my point. I'm saying you are a raci - brooks December 3, 2019, 11:01 pm Sad but typical that you peddle obsolete and regressive stereotypes - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 8:45 pm Ah you've got me there. I'm working for MI5. It's a fair cop. - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 8:56 pm I implied your ego, not something as meretricious as an employer....nm - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 9:07 pm Wow. Deep, man. nm - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 9:09 pm Not really, your comment was predictable, I was waiting for it. ;O)....nm - Keith-264 December 2, 2019, 9:11 pm Sue's never shown any sign of Islamophobia. Does this one post count as such? So maybe JC IS A-S too - Rhisiart Gwilym December 2, 2019, 7:32 pm The liberals are just showing their true, reactionary colours, with absolute certainty. Ridiculous - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 7:45 pm You lot, you are the racists. - Thomas Newfield December 2, 2019, 7:50 pm Tom, Tom, take it easy! You'll give yourself a stroke. "Morons" and "racists" indeed! Surely... - Rhisiart Gwilym December 2, 2019, 9:11 pm Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others - Sinister Burt December 2, 2019, 8:07 pm Re: Sorry, but the Daily Mail didn't stab two people to death and wound others - johnlilburne December 2, 2019, 9:12 pm Re: No decency, no respect, no shame - Mary December 2, 2019, 12:02 pm   Searching