I agree with a lot of that. Documentation is hard to come by and "proved" is a troublesome concept but some actual evidence would be a start.
It's like the claim about Gates saying the vaccines didn't work; much as I hate to go to bat for that pos but he didn't say that. The full interview is easy to find and you can see the context and the result is he didn't say "the vaccines weren't effective". I found the actual interview within seconds. It's this kind of building a house of cards on a cloud that makes it so exhausting trying to drill down on this.
Dore and Rogan don't claim to be experts but that doesn't stop them letting people spout any old shit (and remember, sticking to the point, this all goes back to the recent RFK interview and "They won't debate him" ad nauseam). Rogan just agrees with whatever he hears after his most recent bong hit and goes "Interesting....." and Dore is just in it for clicks. Literally the entire first Dore video is just ad-hominem shit like "I bet he gets paid by the CIA, "he must get more than 100k from Big Pharma" and never a single shred of evidence. For the entire 34 minutes. Great. I agree Hotez comes off as dodgy and definitely "establishment" but there are hundreds of qualified medical people just on Twitter taking issue with RFK's various pronouncements and providing evidence. They could cover some of that and let their guests refute it if they can instead of just saying "Big Pharma shill/CIA plant".
Weirdly enough I'm reading "Pandora's Gamble" at the moment which documents a lot of virus/germ weapon lab leaks and accidents. The 1977 H5N1 leak is remarkably similar to COVID. Mr Carlucci would love it; Fort Detrick gets several chapters all to itself!