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NAPA sponsorship discontinued

Posted by Curtis Berry <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ovalracin/info/user=curtisb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 29, 2014, 6:13 pm

Marc Tsutsui, the general manager of NAPA in Albuquerque, told me that NAPA has discontinued sponsorship of what was formerly called sandia speedway as of January 2014. The contract had originally been for three years.

Other reliable sources have indicated that NAPA withdrew sponsorship because they didn't receive the caliber of advertisement that was expected for the funds, and that Charlie Fagan was difficult to work with.

Thanks,
Curtis

Re: NAPA sponsorship discontinued

Posted by K Seals <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ovalracin/info/user=kseals' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 29, 2014, 8:02 pm, in reply to "NAPA sponsorship discontinued"

Stating a fact isn't spreading a rumor, as the two are completely different
"CB"

Marc Tsutsui, the general manager of NAPA in Albuquerque, told me that NAPA has discontinued sponsorship of what was formerly called sandia speedway as of January 2014. The contract had originally been for three years.

(FACT)

Other reliable sources have indicated that NAPA withdrew sponsorship because they didn't receive the caliber of advertisement that was expected for the funds, and that Charlie Fagan was difficult to work with.

(RUMOR)

Would it be too much to ask to reveal your sources so that we the racing public can validate their reliability?

Re: NAPA sponsorship discontinued

Posted by Curtis Berry <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ovalracin/info/user=curtisb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 29, 2014, 9:38 pm, in reply to "Re: NAPA sponsorship discontinued"

Do your own footwork.

Re: NAPA sponsorship discontinued

Posted by mychal <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ovalracin/info/user=mychal' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 30, 2014, 11:27 am, in reply to "Re: NAPA sponsorship discontinued"

Wow...
Apparently all those years spent,
By yourself, back row of the short bus,
licking windows...took it's toll.

Ever consider a career with the National Enquirer?
...with your "mad sleuthing " abilities, bet you could find out where Elvis is really hiding out.

Also,
additional sources have indicated(to me)you're pretty much worthless to the local racing community.
Thanks, Mychal.

Re: NAPA sponsorship discontinued

Posted by Curtis Berry <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ovalracin/info/user=curtisb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 30, 2014, 12:35 pm, in reply to "Re: NAPA sponsorship discontinued"

Wow, must've hit a nerve.

Re: NAPA sponsorship discontinued

Posted by Bane <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ovalracin/info/user=gguinn' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 30, 2014, 1:09 pm, in reply to "Re: NAPA sponsorship discontinued"

Is it really that hard to believe that Charlie was hard to work with? Anyone who has tried from our local racing community can tell you that "The only way to get Charlie to do something is to convince him that it was his idea" direct quote... so the truth is in the pudding. Like Jay, I would like to thank Napa for everything they have done for local racing, even though they have pulled their sponsorship from the track I will continue to purchase what I can from them.

Gary you may be wrong with your generalization

Posted by chuckj <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ovalracin/info/user=chuckj' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 31, 2014, 6:34 am, in reply to "Re: NAPA sponsorship discontinued"

I think you can find several people in the local racing community that have been able to work with Charlie and I think until you have driven the show and had to pay the bills you should qualify your statements as to your experience. If we all support racing and participate in the efforts of our chosen track to survive things may get better if we choose not to do that we may be watching TV. I'm racing not watching.

Re: Gary you may be wrong with your generalization

Posted by K Seals <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ovalracin/info/user=kseals' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 31, 2014, 10:59 am, in reply to "Gary you may be wrong with your generalization"

Thank you Chuck

Over the years I have chimed in on a wide variety of subjects on here, sometimes even when I should have stayed silent, and I have always strived to take a somewhat neutral approach in my comments. There are always two sides to a story and I keep that in mind, always.

One thing I have gone to great lengths to avoid was to defame the promoter of the track. Every promoter I have met was an A-hole and that is what they need to be to be successful in the business. Go to one of the many promoters schools and they teach that in spades.

If you haven’t already, and you get an opportunity; hike a Modified, slide a Sprint Car and work with the promotion team at a race track – DO NOT pass up the opportunity. And after you have, let’s have a discussion on Oval Racin about what you learned.

And just a reminder for those who suffer short term memory loss such as I do:

A few years past we were willing to pay out of our own pockets to have a local dirt track after the close of HHS.
We got our wish granted for not a dime of personnel investment.

-K

Re: Gary you may be wrong with your generalization

Posted by mychal <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ovalracin/info/user=mychal' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 31, 2014, 9:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Gary you may be wrong with your generalization"

^^^^This^^^
Nice...spot on.
Addendum.
What was it...1968?
Otis Rich approaches Speedway Park promoter Frank Crosby about stuff(racers concerns).
Crosby bans Otis Rich.
Otis&few of his supporters, Jack Barnett, Scotty Sage, Dale Mewhorter, Fred Trokey, Ernie Cloud, Dana Finley, Dick Pool, maybe 25/30 others...take their hot rods to the south valley...
Thus began, the great Speedway Park/Albuquerque Raceway wars....
Only reason...I go all nostalgic?
This summer, by the time the dog days of summer roll around...VERY real possibility exists,
There will be...3 dirt tracks operating within an 80 mile radius.
Two within a 30 mile radius.
Same business's vying for the same racers/fans.
Moral.:
The racers, will go where they feel most wanted/appreciated.
A~hole promoter...gonna go the way of the dinosaur,(never heard Royal referred to by that moniker).
Gonna be a reeeaaally interesting summer...boys&girls.

Re: Gary you may be wrong with your generalization

Posted by K Seals <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ovalracin/info/user=kseals' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 2, 2014, 9:14 am, in reply to "Re: Gary you may be wrong with your generalization"

Wow!
Ernie Cloud.
He was the Shop teacher at Jackson Junior High and influenced my older brother to the point of … well most people around here know the rest of that story. Ernie’s Daughter baby- sat me on an occasion at their house off of Zuni and Louisiana.

When I say A-Hole I use it loosely, in that they need to be stern, hardnosed if you will in their decisions weather they be the right decisions or not. If you are not in agreement with their course of action or as you mentioned their ability to listen to racer concerns you may not see the promoter in the best of terms.

And indeed competition in the local market can be a factor for change. I do remember the rivalry between Speedway and Raceway and it was intense. If you raced one you never visited the other unless it was to prove a point. Reference: Dave Tanner coming down to Raceway for one night and nearly lapping the entire field on the half mile in a Late Model. Pretty sad night for us valley racers.

As far as Royal I get a “get of jail free card” in that I have not actually met him. I have referenced his operation in glowing terms on several posts over the years. His track’s success speaks volumes. All indications he is a successful business man (I see those MVT trucks all over the nation) and I am sure he did not get there by allowing the prisoners to run the asylum.

Keith Hall at Manzanita ran what appeared from the outside to be very successful operation. Walk through the infield pits and you would be hard pressed to find anyone that would agree.

It is the delicate balance between pleasing fans and racers is where success is to be found me thinks.

In short I do like Chuck’s statement: Come try it!

Sorry for wasting two minutes of everyone’s life.

I am just on here killing time until the game starts I suppose

GO HAWKS

Re: Gary you may be wrong with your generalization

Posted by mychal <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ovalracin/info/user=mychal' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 2, 2014, 8:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Gary you may be wrong with your generalization"

Ernie Cloud's Henry J sportsman...motor set back couple feet, straight axle...won a bunch of races.
It's funny, thinking back, I remember Saturdays spent in your brothers hot rod el Camino...shagging parts, everybody over at J.B. Bostic's hanging out, ah, good times, great memories.
If my post came across as adversarial, I apologize..that wasn't the intent.
With the situation as it stands,there may be another Raceway/Speedway war brewing.
The racers are gonna go where they're treated the best.
I only threw Royal's name in, because he gets it...
Treat EVERYONE the same.
Fegan's priorities are geared towards the open wheel stuff.
Makes sense, he raced sprints.
All the other divisions...fall under the red headed step child category.
Hopefully...that will change.
...I look forward to the season starting&being able to throw dirt again.
Looks like...we're gonna have options.

Re: NAPA sponsorship discontinued

Posted by Jay Pape <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ovalracin/info/user=jmpape' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 29, 2014, 8:22 pm, in reply to "Re: NAPA sponsorship discontinued"

I'm disappointed you worked so hard to post something negative. Local racing would be much better served if you spent your considerable passion for good.

I'll start...Thank you NAPA for your support.

Thanks

Jay Pape

Please keep improving racing in NM : )

Posted by jamesh <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/ovalracin/info/user=jamesh' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 30, 2014, 9:28 pm, in reply to "Re: NAPA sponsorship discontinued"

Howdy Racing Family

Wow...

Strong words by a lot of folks.

I personally think why Las Cruces/ El Paso and Tulie do so well is because they all work together and figure out whats best for the fans and racers and coordinate it with their schedules. And now you have Butch Reid working things in Carlsbad so you know thats gonna erupt like wildfire. Great job Butch!

There is absolutely no reason why ALB and Grants cannot get on the same page

Jay Pape hit it right when he thanked NAPA.

Lets make things better!

God Bless Everyone

James

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