- Re: Agreed, just looking at our extradition laws we are already subject to US criminal law! nm Archived Message
Posted by dereklane
on July 29, 2019, 9:06 pm, in reply to "Re: Agreed, just looking at our extradition laws we are already subject to US criminal law! nm"
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"Not something I recognise. " That's probably where we differ most; I think the eu is a protectionist racket (Greece being a good indicator of that) that shows all the pretend benevolence as feigned. I also see strong ties between the eu as an economic force and the strength of nato, and what at their core both stand for. In the government aspects there are some potentially good things going on, but in reality more like the benefits the Israeli Jews get at the expense of Israeli Arabs/ Palestinians. That is to say, the goodwill is tainted by considerations it pretends not to have. Undeniably, the U.K. Has since the beginning ignored any directive from the eu it chose to. This alone makes a mockery of everything you insist is stuff I should be thinking about; if it will hurt the poor to be not part of the eu, IT ALREADY IS. To say otherwise is to ignore all the evidence. I don't believe you're that blind, I have read most of everything else on other subjects you've written here.. "The old "It will sort itself out" argument we have seen as dismiss" There hasn't been a time since the early seventies (earlier too but I don't have time to look up when) when there hasn't been comprehensive trade deals across the wealthy parts of Europe. And yet, through the eighties and now, for several years, the poor suffer as the rich get richer. If you can explain how that works i the favour of the poor without using trickle down economics as an explanation I am listening. I've worked on dairies (still do but not milking). The pay rate was poor. Despite regulations, still on minimum farm labour rating. Not actually enough to live on. I love cows, and the jobs surrounding, but if it's not sustainable now (it isn't without either reprehensible practise or massive subsidies), then let it fail. I'd rather have no job than a job that requires merciless quest for ott milk yields just to pay the workers minimum wage. Everyone suffers. There are always exceptions to this, but I have ambivalent feelings on the dairy industry, which is be happy to talk through separately. Don't understand how a vote with no boundaries could be gerrymandered. Can you explain that? How different was it to the Scottish referendum which yielded a result that suited central govt and therefore had no long drawn out discussions post vote. Ken, I think we've both said our piece. I will read what further you write, but I'm too busy ATM to continue with the same stuff. It's been interesting. I'll probably still complain the next time you say something on the subject but I'll keep it short. Thanks, Derek |