- Der you troll! ( :) ) You know perfectly well that 'intelligent design' is now a boo-phrase to poke Archived Message
Posted by RhG
on January 2, 2020, 1:07 am, in reply to "Intelligent design rears its ugly head. Which physicists, Rich? nm"
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fun at creationists: simpleton people who want us all to take the bible as being literally, actually true just as is. I prefer to keep company with Nick Bostrom, Tom Campbell, and the host of younger, more flexibly-minded physicists who are climbing on board their philosophical-idealism bandwaggon, for the next great leap forward in physics theory. None of them are 'intelligent design'ers in the simple-minded creationist sense. But they do see the pressing logic which says that if the physical, material reality is a virtual creation, then something outside that created reality must have made it, since the idea of it making itself ex nihilo seems a non-starter (compared to the other idea). And since any virtual reality is necessarily an information-based structure (also an idea amongst physicists that's growing steadily just now), then whatever's making and sustaining it must have some pretty formidable computational capability; a seriously Big Mind, you may say. The 'Larger Consciousness System' is Tom's studiously-neutral descriptive name for it. If you can let go of your precious, old certainties for a moment D, and consider that idea coolly, you can see it doesn't have much in common with the naive bible-thumpers. But it does fit very snugly with the new, outside-box thinking about the basic nature of fundamental reality, which is now going on widely in physics - and elsewhere also amongst many theoreticians, across a wide spectrum of scientific disciplines; driven, as scientific revolutions usually are, by anomalies in the current basic ground-plan of science - philosophical-materialism - which it simply can't explain, despite generations of brain-beating over them; quantum mechanics, parapsychology's now thoroughly proven phenomena, and indeed the 'Hard Problem' of consciousness itself being three such stumbling blocks (there are others too). To get a sample of the kind of ideas now being kicked around on all this, put 'information based reality' into YT's search box. And study patiently for a while: people like us who've been brought up on the - alleged - certainties of modern science, with it's deep doubts about all matters spiritual and metaphysical, need a period of acclimatisation before we can contemplate this ferment of new ideas without getting knee-jerk antipathetical responses to them... |