Re: Interesting counter-hypothesis from Tom Campbell - Archived Message
Posted by johnlilburne on January 21, 2020, 1:39 am, in reply to "Interesting counter-hypothesis from Tom Campbell - "
If no unit of sentience, no mind, is present to observe it, there is no tree; there is no forest. That presumably obtains to the universe as a whole, then. If there is no (big) mind to observe it, the universe does not exist. So God comes back in by the back door. But there is no evidential basis for God's existence, nor can there be, because, by definition, God is outside of nature. If God does not exist, then the universe does not exist and all is illusion, including ourselves. Unless sentient beings in aggregate somehow construct the seeming reality of the world. The 'primacy' of physical reality is thus denied But it stands up well to evidential testing. But what does evidential testing - part of science - test if it is not physical reality? it doesn't say that statements of belief such as Derek's are wrong; they just don't go far enough back into the origins of 'physical, material reality' to get the whole picture. This may be true. But how can we know that TBT is the whole picture? Like Jensen's ideas, it may nest inside an even bigger picture or be the wrong picture. We can never know if we have the full picture. And, of course, none of this speculation, though interesting and perhaps comforting, helps us with our human predicament right now.
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