Re: Oborne: Jeremy Corbyn can save the UK economy from the perils of a no-deal Brexit Archived Message
Posted by dereklane on September 12, 2019, 2:37 pm, in reply to "Re: Oborne: Jeremy Corbyn can save the UK economy from the perils of a no-deal Brexit"
It's obviously not true that i and lefties like me who are worried about tory no-deal (though not necessarily brexit itself) are pro trickle down (and which 'the left' do you mean anyway?). I didn't say you were. I suggested it might be a tacit (not overt) left position and gave a reason as to the logic behind this assumption. It's the process of trickle down logic that makes me think it.. Which you haven't really answered. I kind of need more info to see your logic and accept it, even if I don't agree. That is, if everyone is worried about uks standing in Europe business wise, then they are tacitly in support of the notion that trickle down economics is a reality. If the uk has a gdp downturn, it will affect the poor, this is clearly dtj's perspective. That of course lends directly to trickle down economic ideologies. Here is the problem; as he pointed out, he has done well both through the eu and before the eu. Rich people get richer. Poor people get poorer. How the country is theoretically doing matters not to that equation. The scaremongering about post brexit poverty ignores the fact that the poverty is already here and has for a long time been growing , and it relies on the concept of trickle down economics to make the scary point. So, either such advocates of the shit storm to come as a direct result of brexit (rather than the rich ####ing us over even harder with an excuse) abandon their distaste of the concept of trickle down economics so as to align their logic and reason with itself, or they accept that it probably won't make a blind bit of difference on the grand scale for the poor. We will still get ####ed, and it will get worse. The nhs is being dismantled and that started a long time ago and was legalised in 2012. The social welfare system is already in tatters and probably will disappear sooner than later. Working people will have to work to 75 to find their private pensions (public long gone) mysteriously lost. None of this as a direct result of brexit or remain, all of it a clear trajectory of rich vs poor from the get go, and perhaps at the end of it the uk will be still amongst the richest countries in the world. Like in the us, the average citizen would never know it. Cheers
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- Oborne: Jeremy Corbyn can save the UK economy from the perils of a no-deal Brexit - johnlilburne September 12, 2019, 11:53 am
- Re: Oborne: Jeremy Corbyn can save the UK economy from the perils of a no-deal Brexit - dereklane September 12, 2019, 12:14 pm
- Re: Oborne: Jeremy Corbyn can save the UK economy from the perils of a no-deal Brexit - johnlilburne September 12, 2019, 12:18 pm
- "Trickle down" = flood up....nm - Keith-264 September 12, 2019, 12:29 pm
- Indeed. NM - johnlilburne September 12, 2019, 12:49 pm
- Re: Oborne: Jeremy Corbyn can save the UK economy from the perils of a no-deal Brexit - Sinister Burt September 12, 2019, 1:22 pm
- Re: Oborne: Jeremy Corbyn can save the UK economy from the perils of a no-deal Brexit - dereklane September 12, 2019, 2:37 pm
- Re: Oborne: Jeremy Corbyn can save the UK economy from the perils of a no-deal Brexit - Ken Waldron September 12, 2019, 2:33 pm
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