Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. Archived Message Posted by brooks on October 3, 2019, 1:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .." I agree Ian. But what Putin says about Thunberg is not really relevant to us in the west anyway. Russia has been repeatedly invaded, betrayed and almost destroyed by multiple western invasions and virtually economically destroyed by US imperialism which continues its hybrid warfare against it. Like Cuba it probably - and with some justification - regards civil liberties and democracy generally as a luxury it can't afford as long as the state of siege continues. Few if any nations at war do preserve these things intact. And he probably sees the conversion away from fossil fuels - a major source of Russia's income - in a similar light. I'm sure he's thinking "drop the sanctions, drop the hostility, demonization and endless provocations, stop putting weapons systems and bases on our border, pay reparations for the billions you stole from our economy in the 1990s, let us exist as a sovereign state and respected equal partner in the international system, and together with you - the largest emitter of GG emissions on the planet - we will agree to begin to address this issue seriously and start a conversion process. Global warming might be an existential threat, but we have one even more immediate and menacing to deal with, and until that threat is removed by those lecturing us about our global responsibilities, don't expect us to take those lectures seriously." And he would have a point. The failure of Russia to address this crisis seriously is actually our failure to get our governments' collective boot off its neck. I wouldn't be surprised if much of this is implicit in his comments about the Thunberg phenomenon - not the girl herself - which he probably regards as just another manifestation of imperial hubris and hypocrisy. Message Thread: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Shyaku October 2, 2019, 9:59 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - turtleman October 2, 2019, 10:37 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Mary October 2, 2019, 11:07 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Ian M October 2, 2019, 11:25 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - turtleman October 3, 2019, 1:46 am Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - brooks October 3, 2019, 1:59 pm Yes ... - Shyaku October 3, 2019, 10:33 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - brooks October 3, 2019, 3:16 pm Fact check: DmitryO has said several times that Russia could stop exporting fossil hydrocarbons - Rhisiart Gwilym October 3, 2019, 4:43 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - turtleman October 3, 2019, 6:07 pm Quite. - Thomas Newfield October 3, 2019, 6:18 pm Re: Quite. - Shyaku October 3, 2019, 10:39 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Thomas Newfield October 3, 2019, 6:14 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Ian M October 3, 2019, 6:27 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Shyaku October 3, 2019, 5:20 am Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Poster123 October 3, 2019, 1:26 am Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - turtleman October 3, 2019, 1:37 am Media Lenns - George Brennan October 3, 2019, 12:08 pm To HELL with Medialens! - turtleman October 3, 2019, 11:28 pm Re: To HELL with Medialens! - Adamski October 4, 2019, 12:34 am Re: To HELL with Medialens! - Sinister Burt October 4, 2019, 12:55 pm Re: To HELL with Medialens! - turtleman October 4, 2019, 1:56 pm Re: To HELL with Medialens! - Sinister Burt October 4, 2019, 4:39 pm Re: To HELL with Medialens! - turtleman October 5, 2019, 2:28 am Re: To HELL with Medialens! - Sinister Burt October 5, 2019, 11:59 am Re: To HELL with Medialens! - turtleman October 5, 2019, 1:44 pm Re: To HELL with Medialens! - Sinister Burt October 5, 2019, 4:09 pm Re: To HELL with Medialens! - turtleman October 5, 2019, 11:51 pm Structural functionalism - Keith-264 October 5, 2019, 2:21 pm Thanks George. An excellent and important alert. The glimpse into the power of mass mobilization - brooks October 4, 2019, 2:24 pm   Searching