Re: To HELL with Medialens! Archived Message Posted by Sinister Burt on October 5, 2019, 4:09 pm, in reply to "Re: To HELL with Medialens!" Before, you agreed we should change structures, now you say structure can never be changed by us because it should be organic - but these structures have already changed in history many times by the collective actions of people, spurred by the structural inequities in their period - people are organic after all. You then add the usual predictable stuff about individualism as a totem, as if socialism and democracy aren't also about individual freedom, at least in principle (and in practice live up to it more than liberalism/capitalism, unless you count the freedom to buy different colour socks and stay poor, or the lottery of 'social mobility'). Very confused. I'll skip most of what you wrote, but this: "Socialism, as we can see all around us today and going back to post-Romantic psychosis in the 19th c., is less about nurturing individual senses/intelligence/personal responsibility, and more about indoctrination towards collectivism and ideology. " is just nonsense - the socialism we see around us today? where the fcuk's that then? You'll be telling me obama was a marxist next. It is you who has been indoctrinated, seriously. I suggest reading some actual marx (or a reader) because you don't seem to have a clue what he said about eg individual freedom, or what socialism is generally - socialism seen through a glass darkly. Oh well, i'll leave it there - i enjoy some of our chats (more the spritual/religious stuff), but sometimes it's like arguing with ben shapiro (no offence ) Message Thread: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Shyaku October 2, 2019, 9:59 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - turtleman October 2, 2019, 10:37 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Mary October 2, 2019, 11:07 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Ian M October 2, 2019, 11:25 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - turtleman October 3, 2019, 1:46 am Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - brooks October 3, 2019, 1:59 pm Yes ... - Shyaku October 3, 2019, 10:33 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - brooks October 3, 2019, 3:16 pm Fact check: DmitryO has said several times that Russia could stop exporting fossil hydrocarbons - Rhisiart Gwilym October 3, 2019, 4:43 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - turtleman October 3, 2019, 6:07 pm Quite. - Thomas Newfield October 3, 2019, 6:18 pm Re: Quite. - Shyaku October 3, 2019, 10:39 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Thomas Newfield October 3, 2019, 6:14 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Ian M October 3, 2019, 6:27 pm Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Shyaku October 3, 2019, 5:20 am Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - Poster123 October 3, 2019, 1:26 am Re: Puntin reads my posts :-) .. - turtleman October 3, 2019, 1:37 am Media Lenns - George Brennan October 3, 2019, 12:08 pm To HELL with Medialens! - turtleman October 3, 2019, 11:28 pm Re: To HELL with Medialens! - Adamski October 4, 2019, 12:34 am Re: To HELL with Medialens! - Sinister Burt October 4, 2019, 12:55 pm Re: To HELL with Medialens! - turtleman October 4, 2019, 1:56 pm Re: To HELL with Medialens! - Sinister Burt October 4, 2019, 4:39 pm Re: To HELL with Medialens! - turtleman October 5, 2019, 2:28 am Re: To HELL with Medialens! - Sinister Burt October 5, 2019, 11:59 am Re: To HELL with Medialens! - turtleman October 5, 2019, 1:44 pm Re: To HELL with Medialens! - Sinister Burt October 5, 2019, 4:09 pm Re: To HELL with Medialens! - turtleman October 5, 2019, 11:51 pm Structural functionalism - Keith-264 October 5, 2019, 2:21 pm Thanks George. An excellent and important alert. The glimpse into the power of mass mobilization - brooks October 4, 2019, 2:24 pm   Searching