Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State Archived Message Posted by dan on November 8, 2019, 7:18 pm, in reply to "Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State" What's posted here is ad hom, smear and innuendo and the rest is behind a paywall. Wouldn't have been too hard to put some facts in the intro to make me think there was more meat in the piece. There is a climate emergenct and we need to organise against it. There will be corporate establishment interests trying to co opt. Doesn't mean the message is wrong or that the messanger has been derailed. Message Thread: | This response ↓ Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - Rich November 8, 2019, 4:47 pm Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - dan November 8, 2019, 7:18 pm dan, see the whole piece first, then judge. Your characterisation doesn't fit it well. I've just re- - Rhisiart Gwilym November 8, 2019, 8:11 pm his introduction is smear and innuendo. - dan November 8, 2019, 9:27 pm There dan! A text-book case of doctrinal, unquestionable certainty: "We are heading for human - Rhisiart Gwilym November 8, 2019, 10:00 pm PS: Just re-read the intro passage Rich posted. Smear and innuendo? Really? Can't see that. NOM - Rhisiart Gwilym November 8, 2019, 10:18 pm I see no ships - dan November 8, 2019, 10:55 pm Re: I see no ships - :) Not apt though. I'm using my good eye. NOM - Rhisiart Gwilym November 9, 2019, 10:03 am Re: There dan! A text-book case of doctrinal, unquestionable certainty: "We are heading for human - dan November 8, 2019, 11:01 pm I'm promoting intellectually-exact uncertainty, dan, it being the precisely correct rational posture - Rhisiart Gwilym November 9, 2019, 9:59 am Ha! Speaking of smear and innuendo... - Thomas Newfield November 8, 2019, 10:16 pm all seeing prognostication. nm - dan November 8, 2019, 11:04 pm Re: dan, see the whole piece first, then judge. Your characterisation doesn't fit it well. I've just re- - Gerard November 9, 2019, 9:06 am Gerard, if you go on toshing about me being a eugenicist, I shall stop giving you any more hash! Or - Rhisiart Gwilym November 9, 2019, 10:10 am Corruption.. - Gerard November 9, 2019, 10:13 am Dr.Edward Bach - Gerard November 9, 2019, 10:32 am Dan.. - Gerard November 9, 2019, 10:36 am Thought that would bring a string of ripostes, G :) I've nothing against the Bachs, incidentally. My - Rhisiart Gwilym November 9, 2019, 10:48 am Vaccines.. - Gerard November 9, 2019, 10:55 am Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - Rich November 8, 2019, 8:13 pm Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - dan November 8, 2019, 9:28 pm Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - Willem November 8, 2019, 8:19 pm For those who've actually read the whole piece, the main thrust is clear: - Rhisiart Gwilym November 8, 2019, 9:45 pm Re: For those who've actually read the whole piece, the main thrust is clear: - Willem November 8, 2019, 11:07 pm I find it all alarming, Will; and very depressing. But the uncertainty of the upshots remains true. - Rhisiart Gwilym November 9, 2019, 10:40 am Pretty much agree - Willem November 9, 2019, 3:00 pm Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - Thomas Newfield November 8, 2019, 10:12 pm Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - Willem November 8, 2019, 11:23 pm Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - Thomas Newfield November 9, 2019, 10:06 pm Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - Willem November 10, 2019, 1:59 am Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - Gerard November 9, 2019, 10:48 am Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - Thomas Newfield November 8, 2019, 10:04 pm Tom, you've got hold of a copy! You a subscriber too? Anyway, nice judicious summary. NOM - Rhisiart Gwilym November 8, 2019, 10:22 pm Of course I'm a subscriber and, I'd forgotten, it was you who pointed out that - Thomas Newfield November 8, 2019, 10:28 pm I see no smear - dan November 8, 2019, 10:42 pm Re: I see no smear - dan, those aren't smears. They'r Russianly-blunt statements of observable fact. - Rhisiart Gwilym November 9, 2019, 11:16 am There is a long history in Russia and in the West of accusing political oponents of mental defects - dan November 9, 2019, 1:47 pm Re: I see no smear - Thomas Newfield November 9, 2019, 9:59 pm Re: I see no smear - dan November 10, 2019, 7:52 pm Been itching to copy/paste this whole post by Dmitry, Rich, since it appeared. But it's in his - Rhisiart Gwilym November 8, 2019, 7:44 pm Re: Been itching to copy/paste this whole post by Dmitry, Rich, since it appeared. But it's in his - Rich November 8, 2019, 8:08 pm fair enough but I'll wait till it appears on the lifeboat - cheers nm - dan November 8, 2019, 9:40 pm Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - brooks November 8, 2019, 11:18 pm Nicely done brooks.. - Gerard November 9, 2019, 8:52 am Re: Nicely done brooks.. - Gerard November 9, 2019, 9:01 am Incomprehensibility-alert on these two posts, G. Wtf are you on about! Be clear FFS! - Rhisiart Gwilym November 9, 2019, 10:54 am Re: Incomprehensibility-alert on these two posts, G. Wtf are you on about! Be clear FFS! - Gerard November 9, 2019, 10:57 am I'll defend Dmitry's take, b, even if Rich doesn't want to. You'll concede, won't you, that the - Rhisiart Gwilym November 9, 2019, 11:05 am Re: I'll defend Dmitry's take, b, even if Rich doesn't want to. You'll concede, won't you, that the - Gerard November 9, 2019, 11:19 am Re: I'll defend Dmitry's take, b, even if Rich doesn't want to. You'll concede, won't you, that the - brooks November 9, 2019, 11:22 am Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - Rich November 9, 2019, 1:24 pm Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - ceemac666 November 9, 2019, 11:52 am I agree... - Rich November 9, 2019, 12:24 pm Re: I agree... - brooks November 9, 2019, 12:46 pm Re: I agree... - Rich November 9, 2019, 1:33 pm Re: Dmitry Orlov: Greta and the Deep Green State - Sinister Burt November 9, 2019, 12:29 pm Jesus, people seem to have switched off their fine-discrimination ability on this thread. Let's go - Rhisiart Gwilym November 9, 2019, 2:35 pm Re: Jesus, people seem to have switched off their fine-discrimination ability on this thread. Let's go - Sinister Burt November 9, 2019, 5:26 pm Wel, ti'n trio ar y Gymraeg, Burt. Dyna dda! :) NOM - Rhisiart Gwilym November 10, 2019, 12:38 am OT - Interesting Etymology of Welsh word for pharmacy i came across... - Sinister Burt November 10, 2019, 12:10 pm Diolch Burt. Just back from a day's wearisome schlepping around, to little purpose. Will look at em - Rhisiart Gwilym November 11, 2019, 4:30 pm   Searching