'Cheaper food' Archived Message
Posted by mack on September 2, 2019, 6:56 pm, in reply to "Michael Gove’s claim that a no-deal Brexit won’t affect food supplies is ‘categorically untrue’"
was the answer given by Keith in a thread below to the question asking what benefits leaving the EU might bring to the UK working class. I asked for a source for this claim. The answer was another question: Who will be paying the CAP? After being challenged again for a source...nada. So we are supposed to infer that by removing a subsidy to food producers that prices will get lower. Yes, that's right (or, not right, to be accurate.) First up, this idea defies all and any logic: that if CAP payments to landowners were stopped - again, that's a subsidy for food producers - then prices will go down! Talk about arse about tit. Second - if he'd wanted to engage with the question asked instead of just coming back with a nonsense, he might have been told the answer to his question. So, Q: Who will be paying the CAP? A: The UK govt. will. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/farm-payments-if-theres-no-brexit-deal/farm-payments-if-theres-no-brexit-deal After a no-deal Brexit Eligible beneficiaries will continue to receive payments under the terms of the UK government’s funding guarantee. Defra and the devolved administrations are preparing domestic legislation (under the Withdrawal Act) to ensure the UK has the ability in law to continue operation of payments in a ‘no-deal’ scenario. This legislation preserves the EU law as it currently stands, and ‘fixes’ the legislation so that it is operable after the UK leaves the EU. See? So, that one and only (100% illogical) assertion about how things might get better after Brexit - Cheaper food - is not only illogical in itself, but the question - Who will pay the CAP? (breaking the illogic-o-meter) - has an answer. Nothing will change. Just goes to show how people that are ideologically blinded can't even make a coherent argument on the one single issue they raised. It's getting really ####ing tedious listening to this poor poor argument method. And before anyone starts calling me names, know zthat I did not vote one way or the other; I do not care one way or the other; I don't like charades and I'm not interested in feeble arguments about whose bitch to be. There are far more important things to think about. But, you know, if you're going to take a position and try to make an argument for it, then at least TRY get something factual in there instead of just releasing hot air.
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- Michael Gove’s claim that a no-deal Brexit won’t affect food supplies is ‘categorically untrue’ - johnlilburne September 2, 2019, 2:34 pm
- Re: Michael Gove’s claim that a no-deal Brexit won’t affect food supplies is ‘categorically untrue’ - dereklane September 2, 2019, 3:49 pm
- The more hysterical Remoaners become the more foolish they will look when - psingh September 2, 2019, 6:04 pm
- 'Cheaper food' - mack September 2, 2019, 6:56 pm
- Ditto that Mack. NOM - Rhisiart Gwilym September 2, 2019, 9:09 pm
- Re: 'Cheaper food' - dovetailjoint September 2, 2019, 9:25 pm
- Re: 'Cheaper food' - dereklane September 2, 2019, 10:43 pm
- Re: 'Cheaper food' - Ken Waldron September 2, 2019, 10:57 pm
- 'Chinese food' - Shyaku September 3, 2019, 12:48 pm
- Re: 'Cheaper food' - Keith-264 September 3, 2019, 8:39 pm
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