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Posted by marknadim on May 31, 2019, 11:03 pm, in reply to "Re: Not snobbery / ignorance, based on experience working in education and as parent."
I worked for a number of years in an F.E. and H.E. college with a wide range of courses (vocational and academic), levels (from pre-GCSE equivalent up to degree) and ages of students (16-...). And of course have met all kinds of people in life. I've certainly experienced that there's a general (with may exceptions) gradiation showing that higher educated people are ready to ask more, and more relevant, questions of a new proposal, esp. when of an academic / political type; and in the main are less swayed by a simplistic emotional stimulus because, as a matter of course in studies, they consider looking from a different angle to the one presented. A norm, with many exceptions: the yougov stats show 68% of thoze with a degree voted Remain and 70% of those with no post-16 education voted Leave. So about a 1/3 of each sector went against the majority. Coukldn't find a totally relevant study, but some crossover here: Eg: "School leavers lack the critical thinking skills needed for university, exam board warns" "The majority of teachers say that their students leave school for university without learning "essential" critical thinking skills, an international survey has found. More than 1,000 teachers from across the globe were asked to rank the skills needed for success in higher education and 92 per cent identified critical thinking as one of the most important. They also thought it was the skill their students most commonly lacked when they began their post-16 courses at school. The Cambridge International Examinations research revealed that 85 per cent of the teachers thought it was missing at that stage of their students’ education." http://www.tes.com/news/school-leavers-lack-critical-thinking-skills-needed-university-exam-board-warns --- Also From Uni of Glasgow site: "One of the key aims of higher education is to teach you to think for yourself. Unlike school, you’ll often find at university that you are expected to work independently and carry out your own research to develop your disciplinary understanding. University teaches you that there aren’t always ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ answers or perspectives on a problem: in fact, clear-cut answers to complex issues are very rare indeed. You learn to identify the key components of issues – core questions such as ‘what parties are involved?’ and ‘what is at stake?’ –and formulate a question which can be investigated in a methodical, academic manner.You learn to exercise critical judgement in evaluating arguments, and identify biases and logical flaws. And in time you learn to voice your own opinions and back them up with rigorous demonstration and solid evidence. University doesn’t teach you the ‘right’ answers – it trains you to see the whole picture and reach your own conclusions. And as you become more practised in doing so, you’ll find your critical faculties creeping in to your everyday decision making and evaluation – ensuring you’re well equipped for the challenges of life beyond your degree."
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- An interesting analysis of the real EU election numbers in the UK - CJ May 30, 2019, 4:43 am
- Re: An interesting analysis of the real EU election numbers in the UK - psingh May 30, 2019, 6:49 am
- Re: An interesting analysis of the real EU election numbers in the UK - Keith-264 May 30, 2019, 7:17 am
- 2016 Ref was culminstion of a prop campsign by the UK's richest targetting uneducated and elderly.nm - marknadim May 30, 2019, 7:19 am
- It worked. nm - marknadim May 30, 2019, 7:20 am
- 17 4 million, all uneducated, all racist, all nazis? Welcome to liberal fascism - psingh May 30, 2019, 8:16 am
- 70% of no post 16 educ'n, and 64% of over 65s - Leave. 68% of degree level - Remain. mmm nm - marknadim May 30, 2019, 3:12 pm
- Re: 70% of no post 16 educ'n, and 64% of over 65s - Leave. 68% of degree level - Remain. mmm nm - dereklane May 30, 2019, 4:57 pm
- How many of the remain grads got diluted degrees post 1990?....nm - Keith-264 May 30, 2019, 6:54 pm
- Re: 70% of no post 16 educ'n, and 64% of over 65s - Leave. 68% of degree level - Remain. mmm nm - Tomski May 30, 2019, 7:03 pm
- Just up to 16 education def limits critical thinking ability; a degree may make you a ouanquer but - marknadim May 31, 2019, 1:20 am
- Re: Just up to 16 education def limits critical thinking ability; a degree may make you a ouanquer but - dereklane May 31, 2019, 7:03 am
- Re: Just up to 16 education def limits critical thinking ability; a degree may make you a ouanquer but - Jamie May 31, 2019, 7:12 am
- I'm not sure about that - Keith-264 May 31, 2019, 7:27 am
- Not snobbery / ignorance, based on experience working in education and as parent. - marknadim May 31, 2019, 12:29 pm
- Re: Not snobbery / ignorance, based on experience working in education and as parent. - dereklane May 31, 2019, 7:21 pm
- Some - marknadim May 31, 2019, 11:03 pm
- Re: Some - dereklane June 1, 2019, 8:34 am
- Re: Some - marknadim June 1, 2019, 12:13 pm
- Re: Some - dereklane June 1, 2019, 8:43 pm
- Re: Some - marknadim June 1, 2019, 9:56 pm
- Highly-educated people begin as ignoramuses - Keith-264 June 1, 2019, 8:11 pm
- In my day, people had to be 2:1 material to think intellectually - Keith-264 June 1, 2019, 8:08 pm
- Re: 70% of no post 16 educ'n, and 64% of over 65s - Leave. 68% of degree level - Remain. mmm nm - Jamie May 30, 2019, 8:52 pm
- Was it my Ricky Tomlinson - Keith-264 May 30, 2019, 7:58 am
- Applied to the Brexit vote: 33.5% voted Brexit. Not an overwhelming endorsement. - Laurie May 30, 2019, 9:30 am
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