Posted by dereklane on May 17, 2020, 12:23 pm, in reply to "Re: yes."
I don't think it's a double bluff, they were horrified people were so willing to not work. But since the opportunity is there they will and are using it.
And I would say that with all small businesses shut/ diminished (like the little shops that people were patronising before lockdown and now buy online or not at all because we can't afford anything- I'm struggling for boots ATM, plus hairdressers, tattoo shops, small diy, convenience stores, music shops etc), big business is booming out of the lockdown. There's enough evidence of that if you look at the incomes of the big companies across the last few months.
Pubs and bars closed for the foreseeable future, festivals etc. Many might discount these things as excesses we don't need, but are you sitting in silence at home or listening to music, reading, watching stuff on Netflix? Music in particular is a salve for nearly everyone (who feels anything). As a musician I have to say I'm struggling and I've spoken to others in the same situation. People don't just go to a bar to get drunk or laid, but for the music. One of these very key sensual pleasures of life that make life life not just survival. And it connects people, brings them together, gets them talking, thinking and caring. I'd argue this stuff is as essential to a healthy life as exercise and good food.
So we can look at the measures taken (you can work but only in fields that put money into our pockets) and fairly safely assume they've found a way to control people that the people are thirsting for. Arguing they couldn't possibly change their mind more than once or twice assumes they're not as intelligent as you or me. I change my mind daily, and I change path continuously dependent on the obstacles I face. I don't like tories but I can't discount their ability to think and problem solve.
The more people suffer by exclusion and solitude, and having their means of income removed for the greater good when they started with almost nothing, the more will die. There will be (and no doubt already has been), more mental health deterioration, suicide, stress related disease like heart, diabetes (through poor diet and inactivity), anxiety (which can lead to heart disease) across the board.
On the flip side, we all seem able to acknowledge that the lockdown such as it is is doing nothing massively useful because it's been implemented for longevity rather than containment and is missing the needy in its implementation.
I don't know what the solution is, but it isn't what we have happening. And we can't make them do it right because we're all locked up banging pots and pans to show we will do whatever bj tells us to do. My guess is that we still don't need a lockdown, aside from things like int travel and transport (which we don't have), and closure of large public transport systems. With a fully operating health service, there would be more chance of catching symptomatic patients and isolating/ monitoring thereby leading to fee high risk hospitalisation sin unfortunate folks end days.
There are many methods as Dan has pointed out to deal with things effectively without a lockdown, and yet this strangely implemented lockdown is what we have (only strange if you don't consider motivations I guess). And most are seeing it as an anti Tory concept even though they were the ones who have implemented this and it's flavours. It's kind of blowing my mind tbh.