Re: Oh dear Turt Archived Message Posted by dereklane on July 25, 2019, 12:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Oh dear Turt" A fixation on equity, liberty, rights etc. puts one fundamentally on a defensive footing against a perceived enemy or enemies that threaten this desired equity, freedom, liberty etc. " Not if it combines those fixations with a call for *no* leaders. Social equality, freedom and rights is a natural human condition (evidenced by the longest lived human civilisations ). Socialism is conceivably a stepping stone back to those natural roots, but it requires us to give up our faith in all powerful leaders to do it right. Message Thread: | This response ↓ Very important article on how propaganda works: "The 'Just World' fallacy" - margo July 23, 2019, 12:37 pm Great aphoristic last line! Thanks M. NOM - Rhisiart Gwilym July 23, 2019, 1:36 pm brilliant one from Catie Johnstone...nm - MikeD July 23, 2019, 2:14 pm Re: Very important article on how propaganda works: "The 'Just World' fallacy" - dovetailjoint July 23, 2019, 2:58 pm Re: Very important article on how propaganda works: "The 'Just World' fallacy" - turtleman July 24, 2019, 2:22 am Oh dear Turt - Keith-264 July 24, 2019, 11:11 am Re: Oh dear Turt - turtleman July 24, 2019, 12:02 pm Religion is like journalism - Keith-264 July 24, 2019, 2:28 pm Re: Religion is like journalism - turtleman July 24, 2019, 4:57 pm Young? Thanks, I'm 57....nm - Keith-264 July 24, 2019, 5:08 pm Re: Young? Thanks, I'm 57....nm - turtleman July 24, 2019, 7:43 pm Piss off grandad....nm - Keith-264 July 24, 2019, 8:57 pm No respect for your elders, naughty boy! NM - turtleman July 25, 2019, 1:51 am The Great Deceiver? Must be me. - scrabb July 24, 2019, 9:00 pm Re: The Great Deceiver? Must be me. - turtleman July 25, 2019, 2:25 am Re: The Great Deceiver? Must be me. - dereklane July 25, 2019, 12:12 pm No Future.. - Gerard July 25, 2019, 7:21 pm Re: The Great Deceiver? Must be me. - Gerard July 25, 2019, 6:19 pm Re: The Great Deceiver? Must be me. - Gerard July 25, 2019, 6:34 pm Wait a minute T! As a devout atheist I cannot agree.. - David Macilwain July 24, 2019, 2:39 pm Re: Wait a minute T! As a devout atheist I cannot agree.. - turtleman July 24, 2019, 5:00 pm Re: Wait a minute T! As a devout atheist I cannot agree.. - Gerard July 25, 2019, 6:46 pm Re: Wait a minute T! As a devout atheist I cannot agree.. - Gerard July 25, 2019, 6:55 pm Re: Oh dear Turt - margo July 24, 2019, 4:06 pm Re: Oh dear Turt - turtleman July 24, 2019, 7:28 pm Re: Oh dear Turt - dereklane July 25, 2019, 12:16 pm Re: Oh dear Turt - Gerard July 25, 2019, 6:40 pm Re: Oh dear Turt - dereklane July 25, 2019, 7:27 pm Re: Oh dear Turt - Gerard July 26, 2019, 11:15 am What is an, "Apocalypse"? - Gerard July 25, 2019, 6:08 pm "Evil-lotion"? - Gerard July 25, 2019, 7:01 pm Re: Very important article on how propaganda works: "The 'Just World' fallacy" - margo July 24, 2019, 3:45 pm Re: Very important article on how propaganda works: "The 'Just World' fallacy" - turtleman July 24, 2019, 6:59 pm Re: Very important article on how propaganda works: "The 'Just World' fallacy" - margo July 24, 2019, 8:44 pm Re: Very important article on how propaganda works: "The 'Just World' fallacy" - Willem July 24, 2019, 10:39 pm Re: Very important article on how propaganda works: "The 'Just World' fallacy" - turtleman July 25, 2019, 2:35 am Re: Very important article on how propaganda works: "The 'Just World' fallacy" - Gerard July 25, 2019, 6:37 pm Re: Very important article on how propaganda works: "The 'Just World' fallacy" - dereklane July 25, 2019, 4:30 pm Re: Very important article on how propaganda works: "The 'Just World' fallacy" - Gerard July 25, 2019, 6:22 pm There's nowt as UN-common as sense! nm - Gerard July 25, 2019, 6:29 pm How does this dovetail into the 'we are the good guys' factor? - marknadim July 24, 2019, 6:52 am Listen: 'Pictures of Starving Children Sell Records' - - marknadim July 24, 2019, 6:58 am Perhaps more important than gullibility is cynicism .. - Shyaku July 24, 2019, 6:39 pm   Searching